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Post by Davey. on Jul 28, 2024 5:17:47 GMT
I just finished reading this entire thread for a third(maybe 4th)time. And I just want to say to Erwin, thanks again for sharing your research on the discovery of "vital amines". Your work is an excellent continuation down the path started by GG.
For me, one of the important takeaways is that if a person is eating a balanced diet with lots of colorful fruits and vegetables, there is virtually zero chance that person would be A-deficient. And consequently, a person would never need to use supplements, nor eat "enriched" foods. Nor would they need to make any special effort toward eating organ meats. The truth is that the vast majority of foods we eat contain A, making it genuinely difficult to avoid and rather easy to get the RDA.
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Post by Daniel Archer on Jul 28, 2024 9:28:38 GMT
I just finished reading this entire thread for a third(maybe 4th)time. And I just want to say to Erwin, thanks again for sharing your research on the discovery of "vital amines". Your work is an excellent continuation down the path started by GG. For me, one of the important takeaways is that if a person is eating a balanced diet with lots of colorful fruits and vegetables, there is virtually zero chance that person would be A-deficient. And consequently, a person would never need to use supplements, nor eat "enriched" foods. Nor would they need to make any special effort toward eating organ meats. The truth is that the vast majority of foods we eat contain A, making it genuinely difficult to avoid and rather easy to get the RDA. We can not get vit a from plants. Only some people can convert small amounts, some people can't convert any. Liver is rich with the animal form of vit a, which we can readily use. |
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Post by Davey on Jul 29, 2024 2:38:32 GMT
Ok Dan.
45% of humans have a genetic factor which inhibits the conversion to A from plant sources.
3.5 oz. of beef liver delivers 860% of the RDA.
"By definition, the RDA exceeds the actual requirements of all but about 2–3% of the population. Therefore, many individuals who are below the RDA may still be getting enough of the nutrient in question to be above their requirement level." Science Direct
Vitamin A deficiency is not an issue in developed countries.
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Post by erwin on Jul 31, 2024 18:47:30 GMT
I just finished reading this entire thread for a third(maybe 4th)time. And I just want to say to Erwin, thanks again for sharing your research on the discovery of "vital amines". Your work is an excellent continuation down the path started by GG. For me, one of the important takeaways is that if a person is eating a balanced diet with lots of colorful fruits and vegetables, there is virtually zero chance that person would be A-deficient. And consequently, a person would never need to use supplements, nor eat "enriched" foods. Nor would they need to make any special effort toward eating organ meats. The truth is that the vast majority of foods we eat contain A, making it genuinely difficult to avoid and rather easy to get the RDA. Glad you found the findings interesting. It is just the evidence these people left, in condensed form. I am regularly pondering this topic. I wonder what THEY already knew around 1925. If not by actual chemical identities and dynamics, then by mere practice. The Vitamin A RDA means nothing to me. RDA's mean little to me, I don't know any by head. I would say it is currently a matter avoiding (hidden) poisons, rather then being concerned with supposed exotic necessities. See also the mainstream "The Great Vitamin A Fiasco" paper by Michael Latham (2010). Available here unbekoming.substack.com/p/vitamin-a-toxicityThey really want to push this stuff, and make up bogus reasons to target a demographic for a supplementation program. What I understand is that Vitamin A family of substances (Beta Carotene / Retinol (Retinol Palmitate) / Retinoic Acid) can be "handled" by the liver in certain small amounts, but in modern society the liver will start to fall behind and this will backfire later in life, in a variety of ways. There is also a vulnerable period early in life. A guy called Mike Fave is recently arguing Grant is wrong with his "Vitiman A is poison" on youtube. Mike Fave is associated with Paul Saladino. The latter advertises the Head to Tail (with Liver) idea. I don't like anything youtube really. |
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Post by erwin on Sept 5, 2024 16:06:13 GMT
Just a heads up: Grant has scheduled his forum to be discontinued as of tomorrow, the 6th. ggenereux.blog/discussion/Edit: At the last minute it was decided to continue that forum  |
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Post by erwin on Oct 11, 2024 17:40:33 GMT
So that forum is back up, but the current posters there are less then worthless. It is a lost cause. In the past week I have been looking at some video's of Garreth Smith. Next to Grant he has also been writing and talking about Vitamin A being poison. Garreth started a business around it. It is hard to judge this. Where Grant can hardly be faulted for recommending some natural foods and maybe activated charcoal, Garreth is more into supplements and there is some controversy around one of them at least: Lactoferrin. Anyway. I underestimated Garreth. He talks a lot and it still sounds refreshingly logical most of the time. His toxic bile theory is interesting. It may be the missing piece of the puzzle. The short version: The liver as a waste processing and filtering organ, it has a waste discharge path with the galbladder in the form of bile. This bile (with toxins) is partly re-absorbed in the gut, especially when the diet is lacking soluble fiber. When the bile gets rather toxic it can also start leaking into the blood even before it gets into the intestines. A short term relieve from this unpleasant situation is to keep intoxing, which keeps the liver in a mode of adding toxins to storage, whilst reducing bile discharge. In video 108 Garreth also mentions a possible tie-in with a recent 5G/BS-19/Virginia-Stoner article in Vexman's blog. vexmansthoughts.wordpress.com/ "https://vexmansthoughts.wordpress.com/" LYL livestream 108: Appendicitis etc. www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYOxdzmZ--Q "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYOxdzmZ--Q" The idea being that the 5G frequencies can be tuned to cause a bile dump in people. And since modern-day livers end up toxic, and their bile ducts leaky, a nasty amount will leak into the blood: Sickness on demand, through toxins that people already carry within them. I see Vexman has three new articles up, since. But I stil have to read those. |
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