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Post by erwin on Jan 19, 2024 20:07:55 GMT
Great material! Erwin. Gerry. Thx. Just re-read the thread. I find this topic fascinating. I paused on this little bit: "Adele Marie-Antionette Gratiot Washburne 1826-1887"Adele's mother had been a lady-in-waiting of Marie Antionette, the last French queen. Adele was queen's god-daughter." Since "Marie Antoinette" was allegedly beheaded in 1793, how could she have been Adele's god-mother? I am thinking that a god-parent is someone who is alive contemporaneously with the god-child, though may precede the god-child in death. Am I mistaken about the nature of the god-parent/god-child custom? Is this a spook slip up? Or inside joke? Hinting that Marie Antoinette's death was faked and she was still alive over thirty years later to be the god-mother of Adele? Or am I grasping at straws here? Did Miles ever touch on fakery during The French Revolution? On a side note, any thoughts on the poster Dane, from the Haven? Does he post here? He has made some interesting posts that indicated he is using the Mathis method of examining genealogies. One of his posts really intrigued me and I would like to explore it with him, but not in the endless thread format there at the Haven. I find the format here much better for extended explorations of specific parts of the great panopti con we are unraveling. As for the god-daughter confusion, dictionary.cambridge.org says "godparents (= people who take responsibilty for the child's moral and Christian religious development)" If the queen still lived after the Execution event, which she surely did, she was around 70 when Adele was born. So that would not be a very suitable age for godparent IMO. Otherwise I don't know what was going on, just quoted things and linked to the source. Miles hit the french revolution in frev.pdf from 2016. Which I actually mentioned in this topic because of.... Gilbert du Motier, Marquis deLafayette. Just noticed some strange coincidence in that paper: "His aunt was Queen Marie Antoinette. Remember, Lafayette had lived at Versailles and was a personal friend of the Queen." User Dane seems quite skilled with the Miles methods and such. So I do appreciate his comments at Mathisianhaven. PS. I still have someone I want to look at regarding Vitamin C. |
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Post by erwin on Jan 19, 2024 20:18:28 GMT
Crazy late, I know, but, I just finished MWM's paper on Alexander Graham Bell. One of the key players in that narrative being a Hubbard. Appears to be the primary driver of A.G. Bell, supplying him with ample capital and a spouse along the way. Also, not a stretch to guess that our James Ford Bell, from earlier in the thread, is closely related. Nor that Stanley E. and Stanley S. Hubbard of Twin Cities broadcasting prominence, are also connected to the Hubbard in the Mathis paper. It's all so spooky! Yeah, that paper has Gardiner Greene Hubbard 1822-1897 all over it. It paints a clear picture of stealing credit for things done by other people, then using a front (Bell) to fill the void. . This Hubbard founded its own medal tradition for the National Geographic Society: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubbard_Medal / "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubbard_Medal" Can spot the frauds already in the listing of the Recipients there: Several astronauts of course. Four times someone named Leakey, all same family. Then Neil deGrasse Tyson. The medal "is traditionally presented by the President of the United States." |
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Post by erwin on Jan 19, 2024 21:44:08 GMT
Yeah, that paper has Gardiner Greene Hubbard 1822-1897 all over it. It paints a clear picture of stealing credit for things done by other people, then using a front (Bell) to fill the void. A 1st cousin of Alexander Graham Bell is marrying the same Hubbard family daughters, twice. That is Charles James Bell 1858–1929. Having two, then three children from these marriages. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_J._Bell_%28businessman%29One of these children "Grace Hubbard Bell (1884–1979), who married Granville Roland Fortescue, a first cousin of Theodore Roosevelt.[5][6]" |
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Post by Davey on Jan 19, 2024 23:49:57 GMT
I noticed that too. Also noticed that A.G. Bell was 30 when he married Hubbard's 18 year old deaf daughter. Such an age difference was fairly common in that era, so not really an issue. But, since A.G. primarily worked with the deaf in the school that Hubbard founded, he probably had a lot of interactiont with his future wife when she quite young. Not saying he was grooming her, but perhaps his primary usefulness to Hubbard was to marry off his deaf daughter and use his new son-in-law as cover for the business ventures. And kind of begs the question, Was Alexander Graham Bell really all that bright?
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Post by Davey on Mar 20, 2024 15:26:48 GMT
Grant Genereaux has a whole chapter in his book where he discusses the lifelong health problems of Charles Darwin. Apparently Darwin suffered from eczema for most of his adult life. GG notes that the wealthy of that time at very rich diets and favored organ meats. And one of the only periods of relief was a stretch where he ate nothing but raisins for 6 weeks or 6 months(I forget). Grapes/raisins being one of the small number of foods with zero vitamin A. Point being, that while Darwin may have faked the most significant accomplishment of his life, he did not fake his poor health.
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Post by Davey on Apr 22, 2024 5:47:17 GMT
Crosby name pops up again as the Trump trial self-self-immolater is named Max Crosby Azzarello.
Well guys. There ain't much of a conversation going on here. I guess all the smart people are over at the "Haven".
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Post by Michael on Apr 25, 2024 16:56:22 GMT
@davey, ha ha, just been over there, there ain't much of interest over there either.
I have sopped watching the news and now stopped reading Miles, so have my life back and haven't much to say. They don't seem to be discussing Miles' papers so I assume he is not writing anything to keep his audience interested any more.
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Post by Daniel Archer on Apr 26, 2024 5:54:53 GMT
It comes in waves.
Focusing on your own life is very sane, i am building a company with friends and keeping up with Miles is hard, i am on Darwin now, number 3, and read most of the short updates... Miles is stil prolific and interesting to me. Also the science papers i am always up to date with and he put out a few bangers this year already.
Back on topic.
Eating liver everyday, also beef heart, very healthy.
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Post by Michael on Apr 26, 2024 16:10:23 GMT
@daniel good to hear that things are progressing nicely for you. As I say, it has been good to be pushed out of the Miles fold so I have no regrets. I too have been much more productive.
As for Vit A - I really don't know, if you feel healthy then I think it is good. I for one would rather have a healthy life than a long life and I am pretty convinced that meat is a good way to this. Though I still won't be eating it raw.
I don't avoid Vit A and I am healthy.
Not that I really understand what this thread is trying to say.
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Post by erwin on May 22, 2024 16:24:44 GMT
Crosby name pops up again as the Trump trial self-self-immolater is named Max Crosby Azzarello. Well guys. There ain't much of a conversation going on here. I guess all the smart people are over at the "Haven". Hey, Yeah, I haven't checked in here since february. Which is around the time of the Michael 180-degree change of mind. But besides that I just pursued some other interests, because I felt like it. Don't want to discourage anyone, but suppose this forum is pretty much a goner. It seems Most of the posts here are now involving criticism of Miles his papers and/or Miles himself. Predictable. Will have to read back Grant's take on Darwin. Grant posted two new articles on his blog recently. The one on niacin (Vit B3) is interesting, but it is all just a preliminary first impression. Myself: If some government mandates food fortification I figure it is most likely tied to a scam. It is the canadian government in this case. Some of these fortification substances may be rather harmless to cover for the bad ones, so that may complicate it. I have some relatives in Canada. Two lost to cancer recently, two still unaffected. From what I read from Grant he does not really echo the level of fake-ness in all the fields, as Miles does. He just does a stellar job on part of the current medical field. So it is sometimes a bit odd. Like he recently wrote; school shootings may be caused by psychological food toxicity effects. Whilst a Miles reader would think: How can one take supposed school shootings as historical evidence, of all things? Edit: Another thing I noticed at Grant's forum. There are some people there, seemingly able to write about complicated biological processes, then a little later they are pushing youtube health influencers or bloggers. Some of these youtube influencers/bloggers are IMO obvious frauds, or useful idiots maybe. Somebody rightfully mentioned: Please consider that such an influencer/blogger may just be like...a liar. But that consideration seems to be rather rare. |
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Post by Davey on Jun 1, 2024 17:08:04 GMT
Hubbard name pops up again in guest paper about G.G.Allin and MC5:
"Smith’s genealogy on Findagrave does reveal some interestng links, but nothing too far back. Startng with his father Dewey Smith (1924-2011), we fnd his parents were Edmund Smith and Lucreta Hubbard Smith. Edmund was born to Ransom Harrison Smith and Charity Hubbard Smith. So did Edmund marry a cousin?"
That is regarding Fred "Sonic" Smith, founding member of MC5 and husband to Patty Smith, who, it turns out was already a Smith, prior to her marriage to Fred.
I have never cared for Patty as a musical act, but I did love MC5 back in my teen years. I tended to prefer the harder types of rock over the folkier stuff. Another icon of my youth shot down!
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Post by erwin on Jun 12, 2024 17:03:48 GMT
Hubbard name pops up again in guest paper about G.G.Allin and MC5: "Smith’s genealogy on Findagrave does reveal some interestng links, but nothing too far back. Startng with his father Dewey Smith (1924-2011), we fnd his parents were Edmund Smith and Lucreta Hubbard Smith. Edmund was born to Ransom Harrison Smith and Charity Hubbard Smith. So did Edmund marry a cousin?" That is regarding Fred "Sonic" Smith, founding member of MC5 and husband to Patty Smith, who, it turns out was already a Smith, prior to her marriage to Fred. I have never cared for Patty as a musical act, but I did love MC5 back in my teen years. I tended to prefer the harder types of rock over the folkier stuff. Another icon of my youth shot down! I briefly looked at the findagrave of Lucreta Hubbard Smith last week, but did not yet see anything worth mentioning, yet. That Fred and Patty sure look, eh, phoenician later in life. But maybe it is better to diverge further into such musicians in a separate topic. |
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Post by Davey on Jun 13, 2024 0:13:43 GMT
Not really trying to start a tangent about music scene. Just intrigued by how often certain names pop up across a range of nefarious and/or fraudulent activities. In this thread we have seen the Hubbard name connected to bad food science, fake honeypot religions, billionaire media owners, specious claims to theories and inventions, and now, even our beloved revolutionary and counter-cultural rock and roll. What's next?
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Post by erwin on Jun 14, 2024 17:13:42 GMT
Not really trying to start a tangent about music scene. Just intrigued by how often certain names pop up across a range of nefarious and/or fraudulent activities. In this thread we have seen the Hubbard name connected to bad food science, fake honeypot religions, billionaire media owners, specious claims to theories and inventions, and now, even our beloved revolutionary and counter-cultural rock and roll. What's next? Indeed. Though it is just a family name, which can be carried over by the men of the family. The women are just as significant but will branch out with another family name. I suppose the family names are a helpful indicator of how the inherited money and power flows, or is likely to flow. But IMO it is better to find the evidence of the usual phoenician schemes, such as impossible bios with stupid stories, and their work in influencing common people en-masse. For example Patty Smiths promotion is already unnatural. I don't think anyone would have heard of her, if she had to do things just by her own talent. She would not be able to compete in that world. |
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Post by Davey on Jun 14, 2024 19:03:49 GMT
Indeed. I know a singer/songwriter here locally who has a "peerage" last name. I joked with her about it and she said she was Plantagenet, and Eleanor of Aquitaine was her 37 G-grandmother. But, as MM has noted, bloodlines that are out of favor/power proffer no advantage for the current carriers of the line. So she is not well connected enough to be promoted and become an "overnight sensation", even though she is genuinely gifted and talented. To alter an old saw, "It's not what you know, it's who you are related to."
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