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Post by Michael on Oct 23, 2023 15:23:05 GMT
Boots and shoes are a common flag in events, so I did a little thinking as to their meaning and remembered the boots stamping on the face in 1984 (and at the Game Over screen in Jet Set Willy and I think Monty Python, but hey) and thought that has to be it. It is saying exactly what it is showing, you will be stamped underfoot. What it means in events could, therefore, be wither a, this person stepped out of line and this is the punishment - though obviously that would assume that the event did take a person or persons out, or b, this is the calling card of the people who crush you like a fly, time and time again. Here is a mainstream essay explaining it, and yes, I know Miles has outted two of the authors mentioned in this, though all that says is they were on the other (to what we are told) side when writing it The Meaning of ‘If You Want a Picture of the Future, Imagine a Boot Stamping on a Human Face – for Ever’
And here are some choice quotes:
But always – do not forget this, Winston – always there will be the intoxication of power, constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face – for ever.
Jonathan Swift’s 1726 novel Gulliver’s Travels provides a source. In Book IV, Gulliver finds himself among the Houyhnhnms, horses with reason and intellect who have perfected a kind of totalitarian society:
battering the warriors’ faces into mummy by terrible yerks from their hinder hoofs.
Jack London’s The Iron Heel
Nineteen Eighty-Four. Mr Wickson tells Ernest: ‘We will grind you revolutionists down under our heel, and we shall walk upon your faces.’ Later in the novel, Ernest recalls Wickson’s words: ‘We shall be robbed of our few remaining liberties; the Iron Heel will walk upon our faces; nothing remains but a bloody revolution of the working class.’
Orwell’s The Lion and the Unicorn:
The goose-step, for instance, is one of the most horrible sights in the world, far more terrifying than a dive-bomber. It is simply an affirmation of naked power; contained in it, quite consciously and intentionally, is the vision of a boot crashing down on a face.
I hope this makes some sense, as much as Gerry has done to decode the puns I still think there are many in yer face tells that they love to rub in our noses. I can just see the likes of Jacob Rees Mogg smirking at them all.
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Post by erwin on Oct 23, 2023 18:02:49 GMT
Maybe, but I also see a sort of difference. Like there is the hand that distracts while the other hand acts. The show-shoe distracts, the other shoe crushes. A loose shoe has no crushing power in itself. PS, rationalwiki still has that animated gif of a boot stamping on a face, which Miles mentioned a long time ago: rationalwiki.org/wiki/RationalWiki"https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/RationalWiki"
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Post by Michael on Oct 24, 2023 10:53:08 GMT
erwin Interesting, a loose shoe has no power to crush, that would tie in with my silencing of an agent they have been been de-shoed. Do you remember the shoe metaphor with Saddam Hussein In Tikrit, the hometown of former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein, a sofa-sized statue of a giant shoe was unveiled in 2009 as a tribute to the pride of the Iraqi people. The statue is inscribed with a poem honoring Muntadhar al-Zeidi, the Iraqi journalist who threw his shoes at former US President George W. Bush during a farewell press conference.2 In Iraqi culture, throwing shoes at someone is considered a sign of contempt.1 In 2013, an Iraqi man hurled his shoes at former US envoy to Iraq, Paul Bremer. Bremer suggested the man improve his aim if he wants to do things like that.
I didn't know about the sofa sized statue, talk about showing or shoeing off.
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Post by erwin on Oct 24, 2023 18:01:15 GMT
erwin Interesting, a loose shoe has no power to crush, that would tie in with my silencing of an agent they have been been de-shoed. Do you remember the shoe metaphor with Saddam Hussein In Tikrit, the hometown of former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein, a sofa-sized statue of a giant shoe was unveiled in 2009 as a tribute to the pride of the Iraqi people. The statue is inscribed with a poem honoring Muntadhar al-Zeidi, the Iraqi journalist who threw his shoes at former US President George W. Bush during a farewell press conference.2 In Iraqi culture, throwing shoes at someone is considered a sign of contempt.1 In 2013, an Iraqi man hurled his shoes at former US envoy to Iraq, Paul Bremer. Bremer suggested the man improve his aim if he wants to do things like that.
I didn't know about the sofa sized statue, talk about showing or shoeing off. It is not a particularly nice statue. I don't know what to make of it, yet. What is the poem exactly? The idea of throwing shoes to these officials is good. Like with these stupid speeches by controlled opposition puppets. They have the microphone, but you have a shoe, and another one too. Maybe bring old ones. edition.cnn.com/2018/05/02/middleeast/bush-shoe-thrower-iraqi-parliament-intl/index.html
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Post by Michael on Oct 25, 2023 13:51:07 GMT
erwin I can't find a translation of the this sums up the whole thing, and indeed the symbolism of the boot. Why you would make a boot as a reminder is a bit strange though. what compelled me to act is the injustice that befell my people, and how the occupation wanted to humiliate my homeland by putting it under its boot.
We used to be a nation in which the Arab would share with the Turkman and the Kurd and the Assyrian and the Sabean and the Yazid his daily bread. And the Shia would pray with the Sunni in one line. And the Muslim would celebrate with the Christian the birthday of Christ. This despite the fact that we shared hunger under sanctions for more than a decade.
Our patience and our solidarity did not make us forget the oppression. But the invasion divided brother from brother, neighbour from neighbour. It turned our homes into funeral tents.
The scandal of Abu Ghraib. The massacre of Falluja, Najaf, Haditha, Sadr City, Basra, Diyala, Mosul, Tal Afar
When I threw the shoe in the face of the criminal, George Bush, I wanted to express my rejection of his lies, his occupation of my country, my rejection of his killing my people. My rejection of his plundering the wealth of my country, and destroying its infrastructure. And casting out its sons into a diaspora.
When I threw the shoe in the face of the criminal, George Bush, I wanted to express my rejection of his lies, his occupation of my country, my rejection of his killing my people. My rejection of his plundering the wealth of my country, and destroying its infrastructure. And casting out its sons into a diaspora. As we used to say "LEST WE FORGET" though I have noticed in recent years that this has been changed to "we Will Remember Them" an the pretty horrible, considering the situation "for your tomorrow we gave our today"
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Post by erwin on Oct 26, 2023 18:13:49 GMT
You quoted earlier "In Tikrit, the hometown of former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein" I wonder what is the link between this shoe thrower and Saddam Hussein? Normally not much else, but still Tikrit for a reason. Of course Saddam was a Shill. Haven't inestigated him, but chanches that his regime was really autonomous are like none. Saddam was one of the best customers of the international Military industry. Buying loads and then supposedly getting it all shot to pieces in the sand. Before the shows in 1991 and then 2003, there was Iran-Iraq war in the eighties.
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Post by Michael on Oct 27, 2023 12:01:50 GMT
erwin Yes, thinking about it they are bound to be connected. As it is all a show. I keep forgetting I am pretty easily duped. I understand why other people fall for it too, they are not giving it that much thought and therefore just allow their emotions to follow the story. TBF, if people didn't do that they would have no idea what was going on - which is still better. I have never investigated Saddam either but I totally agree with you. Wonder where he is now. Here is another shoes slang that you here in Scotland: soft shoe shuffle I will not kiss your ass! She soft shoe shuffle (d) to get that account!
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Post by erwin on Oct 27, 2023 17:45:44 GMT
Here is another shoes slang that you here in Scotland: soft shoe shuffle I will not kiss your ass! She soft shoe shuffle (d) to get that account! My english understanding is unsufficient here. What do you make of it? "https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=soft%20shoe%20shuffle" is not helping much. PS. IIRC I read somewhere that the 1991 Iraq War was timed perfectly to get everyone's eyes of the Operation Gladio / "stay behind armies" subject. There was an exposure of dirty dealings in Italy, and these exposures where spreading to other Western-European countries, or were about to. Since the 1991 Iraq war got the kick-off by Saddam's invasion of Kuwait, Saddam actually did the PN a favour there.
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Post by Michael on Oct 28, 2023 13:36:39 GMT
erwin Sorry about that it took me years to understand what they were meaning and I am still not 100% sure. I think it was like selling a feint in football, like selling someone a dummy due to the American dance style soft shoe which is like tap dancing with no metal tips so that the dance is quiet. Though the example I gave above seemed to suggest that it was more about brown nosing (if you know what that is). I hadn't heard about Operation Gladio / Stay Behind, there are so many rabbit holes to go down. That is very strong proof that the fascists won and just shipped over to the US. I wonder why they felt the need to put this in? From the wiki The units were trained, in part, by "Mad Mike" Calvert, a Royal Engineers officer who specialised in demolition by explosives and covert raiding operations.Certainly makes more sense as an eyes off operation than the official narrative that Saddam thoughr he could just walk into Kuwait and stake his claim on behalf of Iraq.
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Post by erwin on Oct 30, 2023 18:29:50 GMT
erwin Sorry about that it took me years to understand what they were meaning and I am still not 100% sure. I think it was like selling a feint in football, like selling someone a dummy due to the American dance style soft shoe which is like tap dancing with no metal tips so that the dance is quiet. Though the example I gave above seemed to suggest that it was more about brown nosing (if you know what that is). I hadn't heard about Operation Gladio / Stay Behind, there are so many rabbit holes to go down. That is very strong proof that the fascists won and just shipped over to the US. I wonder why they felt the need to put this in? From the wiki The units were trained, in part, by "Mad Mike" Calvert, a Royal Engineers officer who specialised in demolition by explosives and covert raiding operations.Certainly makes more sense as an eyes off operation than the official narrative that Saddam thoughr he could just walk into Kuwait and stake his claim on behalf of Iraq. Thanks for trying to explain it. A feint in football, like what they call a "Schwalbe" in Germany. brown-nosing: "trying to hard to please someone". it says. I guessed wrong. It has been a while, but I glanced over a book about Gladio. Miles mentioned Gladio sometimes as one of the better examples of government and intelligence dirty dealings, as a good newby introduction to fakery. IIRC just the same situation as ever: There was the usual scare-theme, and from 1946 to 1990 it was the communist red scare. So the PN then thinks it is essential to keep this fear in the hearts and minds of the common people, by pretending to be communist terorrists every now and then. The only odd thing was, that it escalated a bit in Italy, and things were admitted in court. The admissions being an even bigger escalation.
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Post by Michael on Oct 31, 2023 12:39:01 GMT
erwin Yes, precisely, not that I had heard of the German equivalent term "Schwalbe" which looks to translate directly to "swallow" which I can sort of get, something like " I made or / you have swallowed my feint / dummy." With dummy it all comes back to the fake event - thinking that mannequin was really JFK (or whatever). I think that site (and therefore my referencing it) was misleading, brown nosing is something else, though the Phoenies love to receive it, rather than give it. Sorry for the misdirect. Yes, Gladio is a great example. My sense of humour would have me speaking to a well read normie and dropping in something like "Oh yeah, I don't believe all these conspiracy theories like Gladio" and just wait for them to educate me on the clandestine nature of our state. It isn't lack of knowledge that they have but a lack of contemplation of how far that means the tentacles go.
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Post by dentarthurdent on Nov 19, 2023 13:15:34 GMT
There may or may not be a connection to using a pair of shoes hung from a power line to indicate the location of a freelance pharmaceutical tradesman; i.e. a drug dealer.
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Post by Michael on Nov 19, 2023 18:23:59 GMT
There may or may not be a connection to using a pair of shoes hung from a power line to indicate the location of a freelance pharmaceutical tradesman; i.e. a drug dealer. I had never heard of that, but noticed that years ago and thought why would someone do that? Though surely, once the dealer has moved on the shoes will remain. Aside from that I don't really see the connection. Is it that drug dealers are run by our Overlords so they use their imagery?
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Post by Jon Heyes on Nov 20, 2023 1:33:22 GMT
There may or may not be a connection to using a pair of shoes hung from a power line to indicate the location of a freelance pharmaceutical tradesman; i.e. a drug dealer. I had never heard of that, but noticed that years ago and thought why would someone do that? Though surely, once the dealer has moved on the shoes will remain. Aside from that I don't really see the connection. Is it that drug dealers are run by our Overlords so they use their imagery? I've heard of that many decades ago but it could just be a load of old cobblers.
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Post by dentarthurdent on Nov 24, 2023 20:40:18 GMT
I was told about the shoes by the police, in a seminar about crime-proofing. They said you can call the electric utility to have them removed, but the police like having the directional signage.
I would not be surprised by a single puppeteer controlling both the drug dealers and the cops, so when one dealer is relocated another fills its place, and we get an endless plea for more police funding.
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