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Post by erwin on Nov 21, 2023 18:08:07 GMT
mathisianhaven.wordpress.com/2023/10/22/a-brief-history-of-spookery/comment-page-1/#comment-1077Gerard Nordskoven, November 19, 2023, wrote: ( PS: I cannot find the jewish soccer team in that link, so where did Gerard take that from? ) Karol Józef Wojtyła (Pope John Paul II) was in 1941 supposedly a poor polish orphan, and then logically got trained by.... "Prince Adam Stefan Stanisław Bonifacy Józef Cardinal Sapieha" I admit, I choose the picture below for the striking feature.  But the training was in secret, because of nazi occupation. They were hidden in a place the evil occupiers would never suspect.... "The Bishop's Palace in Kraków" Quotes from wikipedia. More strange stories there: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Stefan_SapiehaSuch as this one: "His (Sapieha's) elder brother, Prince Władysław Leon Sapieha, is the great-grandfather of Queen Mathilde of the Belgians." But what caught my attention was the brooch worn by the queen's daughter: Princess Eleonore, here attending national day 2022. A prominent Bee, or Fly? This of course ties in with similar findings in Gerry's 'Ancient Spooks' papers. This one is just not that ancient, not even current, but ready in the cue. 
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Post by Jon Heyes on Nov 22, 2023 11:17:08 GMT
Blondie's Debbie Harry was on the telly the other night with a hat with two bees on it, apparently she's a bee keeper and wants to save the bees!
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Post by erwin on Nov 22, 2023 17:18:45 GMT
Blondie's Debbie Harry was on the telly the other night with a hat with two bees on it, apparently she's a bee keeper and wants to save the bees! Wow, a search shows her with several different bee decorations, like this one:  As for the current European royals. Sure one can find many more with bee or fly brooch on, but then again they change outfit and brooch for every occasion. So that waters it down... |
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Post by Michael on Dec 1, 2023 17:56:07 GMT
erwin good spot Pity about Blondie, but we knew really. I think it goes way, way deep. Unbelievably deep. Right down to some of the smallest and least successful acts. They must control, and maybe they just throw a lot of mud and see what sticks. Multiple fingers in every pie.
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Post by erwin on Dec 1, 2023 18:13:55 GMT
erwin good spot Pity about Blondie, but we knew really. I think it goes way, way deep. Unbelievably deep. Right down to some of the smallest and least successful acts. They must control, and maybe they just throw a lot of mud and see what sticks. Multiple fingers in every pie. IIRC I read somewhere Blondie was an "Andy Warhol creation". But I don't know where it was... Miles did not mention Debbie Harry in his recent Warhol paper. A more humble link between the two is easy to find in a quick search: news.artnet.com/art-world/debbie-harry-andy-warhol-1696761 |
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Post by Michael on Dec 1, 2023 18:24:46 GMT
erwin Blimey, and knowing what we know the most unbelievable part of that story is that Debbie Harry was waiting tables for anything other than a lark. Not that disappointing really, Blondie were always the weakest of brews. Just a catchy pop band really, so no great loss to the alternative scene.
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Post by Michael on Dec 1, 2023 18:31:41 GMT
And the Duchamp link, Miles will be pleased, he loves Duchamp, he bought that urinal and installed it in his bike shed.
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Post by Michael on Dec 1, 2023 18:52:05 GMT
Harry was adopted as an infant and raised in Hawthorne, New Jersey. After college she worked various jobs—as a dancer, a Playboy Bunny, and a secretary (including at the BBC in New York)... "Rapture", which is considered the first rap song to chart at number one in the United State
Born in Florida, adopted in New York. Is that normal? You would have thought they could find more local adoptive parents. Mother was a concert pianist, so pretty elite. But for this one the media is going to let the fact that she didn't want to be involved be sufficient. We can assume a fair amount of influence and the father must be known but unnamed, so probably even more elite, or are we meant to believe that the father was a bit of rough for the posh pianist.
1966–1975: Early projects; formation of Blondie
In 1973, Harry joined The Stilettos with Elda Gentile and Amanda Jones. Shortly thereafter, the band added guitarist Chris Stein, who became her boyfriend.[16][17] In her memoir, Face It, Harry describes having been raped at knifepoint during a burglary of the home she shared with Stein.[18]
She also wrote that during the early 1970s, the serial killer Ted Bundy lured her into his car in New York City, but she escaped. Harry's description of the white vehicle stripped on the inside and missing the passenger door handle matched the 1968 VW Bundy was driving, but authorities believed him to be in Florida at the time. Ann Rule, an author of the Bundy biography The Stranger Beside Me, commented that erroneous claims of Bundy abductions are fairly common
Spooky enough for me and that is all that I have time for this evening.
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Post by erwin on Dec 1, 2023 19:00:41 GMT
Spooky enough for me and that is all that I have time for this evening. Yeah. Thanks for adding to it. The Ted Bundy part takes the cake. Also have to go out now. |
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Post by erwin on Dec 6, 2023 17:19:13 GMT
I checked where I first noticed the Blondie / Andy Warhol link. It was this: Dutch language wikipedia says this in Dutch in the first paragraph: " Andy Warhol came up with the appearance of Harry, bleached hair and only dressed in a white T-shirt and underpants." But it has no reference, and the English and German wiki entries do not have this part, so maybe it is true or maybe just someone's imagination... nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blondie_(band) Debbie harry was featured in the first episode of Andy Warhol's 15 Minutes MTV show, 1986. Weird stuff. Obviously about drag queen cross-dressers as well. www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vxPF1FhCOsUgly photo I still had stored. Chris Stein - Deborah Harry (Blondie) - Andy Warhol, 1982. With dark symbols on their shirts as well.  |
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Post by Michael on Dec 6, 2023 18:50:20 GMT
Are we speculating the DH may not be all woman? I haven't got anything against that theory, but I have never looked that closely, though I was attracted to her as a teen, but I am big enough to understand that hat really doesn't mean anything. It would be the exact con they were trying to pull. Debbie Harry is also pictured on Warhol's wiki page Photograph of Debbie Harry by Andy Warhol, taken in 1980 in the Factory on the day of the photo-shoot for her silkscreen portraits
Plenty of other times they are linked. I did find more on the parents Scottish McKenzie mother and married Trimble father, but wiki still states she was born Trimble, not sure how that would work when him being married to someone else was the whole reason for the adoption. So we would be looking for a concert pianist in the 1940's called McKenzie and notable Trimble. Interestingly, I found a Joan Trimble a renowned concert pianist, which might fit if the mother was the Trimble. Also, from Warhol's wiki page: Warhol died in Manhattan at 6:32 a.m. on February 22, 1987, at age 58. According to news reports, he had been making a good recovery from gallbladder surgery at New York Hospital before dying in his sleep from a sudden post-operative irregular heartbeat.[103] Prior to his diagnosis and operation, Warhol delayed having his recurring gallbladder problems checked, as he was afraid to enter hospitals and see doctors.[81] His family sued the hospital for inadequate care, saying that the arrhythmia was caused by improper care and water intoxication.[104] The malpractice case was quickly settled out of court; Warhol's family received an undisclosed sum of money.
He was laid out holding a small prayer book and a red rose. The funeral liturgy was held at the Holy Ghost Byzantine Catholic Church on Pittsburgh's North Side on February 27, 1987. The eulogy was given by Monsignor Peter Tay. Yoko Ono and John Richardson were speakers. The coffin was covered with white roses and asparagus ferns.[105]Did they: - Not want to make it 6.33 am?
- What is 22/02, in spook numbering?
- Is there any significance to red or white roses and asparagus
Oh and I assumed he was Jewish, Miles probably covered this in the paper, but I didn't realise he was LARPing as Catholic to the end.
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Post by erwin on Dec 7, 2023 17:01:35 GMT
Are we speculating the DH may not be all woman? I haven't got anything against that theory, but I have never looked that closely, though I was attracted to her as a teen, but I am big enough to understand that hat really doesn't mean anything. It would be the exact con they were trying to pull. I have not considered DH to be a man. I just watched a bit of the youtube clip, and after a brief modern-art intro with Andy and Debbie it started reporting about drag-queens in the 'the pyramid' club. My current guess is that DH is a minor spookling cousin, added to one of Warhol's projects, mainly for her looks. About numerlogy, maybe "6:32 / 22 february" makes 6 + 3*2 + (2+2+2) = 6,6,6? Besides, Andy Warhol is one of the most obvious operation Chaos agents, so whatever he is involved in, is automatically compromised. I don't know about these "white roses and asparagus". I do notice that Andy's funural description there is rather christian-religious, which does not match his life. Last week, somebody at mathisian haven posted this weird clip concerning the Andy Warhol character in the movie Men In Black 3. "Bill Hader in Men In Black 3" Near the end of the clip Andy says: "You've got to fake my death" www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MbvNXZL5f0 |
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Post by Michael on Dec 7, 2023 17:28:18 GMT
erwin DH was pretty, so I am happy for her not to be under general suspicion. Agreed, she was a good money spinner for the top brass, her sustained career makes me think she was of quite high value blood. Though the lack of children suggest that might not be true, I suspect the top bloods have to pass on those genes. What you mean Andy was a devout follower of Christ...... just kidding, yeah, he is a key chaos merchant. Yeah, I saw that on mathaisianhaven, but I didn't watch it, I have now = funny. Even the CONOP's tell us that they have to tell us the truth in fiction. I am a bit surprised that Miles didn't go for the Warhol faked his death thing, but he has done that so many times that it probably didn't even need saying. On an aside, I am finding mathaisianhave to be too all over the place. I am not sure why so many people prefer that format. Apart from a hoping for an appearance from Miles, which would of course be lovely.
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Post by erwin on Dec 7, 2023 17:50:06 GMT
You have a weak spot for DH obviously. My father once admitted he had a weak spot for her, therefor I may be also predisposed.
"The tide is high" is currently playing on the radio, Coincidentally...
Still, from that era I would prefer Mariska Veres from Shocking blue. (Where the role of Andy Warhol is replaced by Barry Hay)
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Post by Michael on Dec 8, 2023 16:56:19 GMT
erwin DH would be in the mix, but I would always name Poison Ivy from The Cramps as No. 1. Though I have done a bit of digging about her and even she is a bit spooky, surname Wallace and some link to Miles Copeland whose father was head of the CIA in the Middle East. But still. As for Mariska Veres, well you didn't think I wasn't going to have a little read of her wiki. Maria Elisabeth Ender, better known as Mariska Veres (1 October 1947 – 2 December 2006), was a Dutch singer who was best known as the lead singer of the rock group Shocking Blue. Described as being similar to a young Cher, she was known for her sultry voice, eccentric performances, and her striking appearance which featured kohl-rimmed eyes, high cheekbones, and long jet black hair, which was actually a wig.[1]Ender can be Jewish, though I don't think it is a slam dunk, neither is 1947 for Europeans. The wig is a sign of deception - though another stretch. Her father was the Hungarian Romani violinist Lajos Veres (1912–1981), and her mother Maria Ender (1912–1986) was of French and Russian heritage.[2]If her father was Veres why was she born Enders but known as Veres? Veres is a Jewish name, though here they seem to be putting the looks of this violinist down to him being Romani, more likely he was a Romanov! In 1965, she sang with the Bumble Bees,[1]Shut up, that is making it too easy. Once you know you know. She also released the singles "Tell It Like It Is" (1975), a cover version of Dusty Springfield's "Little By Little" (1976)Who MIles has hit previously. Veres had a long-term relationship with guitarist André van Geldorp [nl],Looks like a variant of Bob Geldof, who Miles has outted for his Judio-Peerage background. Veres died of gallbladder cancer on 2 December 2006 at age 59, just three weeks after the disease had been detected.[5][6]These families must have something up with their gallbladders because that was the contributing factor for Warhol. It must be all the toxic bile they are processing. It's a small world. No doubt though, she was very fit in her prime. Wouldn't be keen on the later version though. Barry Hay, I didn't know his name but, how many red flags does this opener send up. Hay was born in Ayodhya, India, to a Dutch-Jewish[2] mother, Sofia Maria née Sluijter (1922–2004, born in Makassar), and a Scottish commissioned officer, Philip Aubrey Hay (1923–1980). He moved to the Netherlands at the age of eight to live with his mother. He lived in Amsterdam and later in The Hague, attending an English boarding school.
After graduating from secondary school, he took courses at the Royal Academy of Art, The Hague. He has a very short wiki page, though I suppose his Dutch one will be extensive, Midnight Oil were nothing over here.
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