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Post by dentarthurdent on Feb 17, 2024 21:11:19 GMT
I would guess less than 1% of the human race has actually read Darwin’s books, so all we know of him, his sea cruise as Captain Fitzroy’s Gentleman Companion, and the theories attributed to him is based on what the Phoenicians have told us. Our preconceived notion that he was a keen observer of nature and a clever thinker primed us to trust all we were told. We didn’t do a shred of research on our own.
Thanks to Miles, the scales have fallen from my eyes. It looks like Darwin was a nothing, who seems to have decided marrying his cousin was better than living alone with a dog.
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Post by OrganizedChaos on Feb 18, 2024 9:29:17 GMT
Had a cursory look at the wiki for the HMS Beagle. Now wondering if the HMS Beagle might be symbolic & an inside joke for the writers? Certainly evolution has been made into a modern diety. There was no immediate need for Beagle, so she "lay in ordinary", moored afloat but without masts or rigging. She was then adapted as a survey barque and took part in three survey expeditions. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_BeagleLooking at the term barque, I noted this: The most important Egyptian barque carried the dead pharaoh to become a deity. Great care was taken to provide a beautiful barque to the pharaoh for this journey, and models of the boats were placed in their tombs. Many models of these boats, that range from tiny to huge in size, have been found. Wealthy and royal members of the culture also provided barques for their final journey. The type of vessel depicted in Egyptian images remains quite similar throughout the thousands of years the culture persisted. Barques were important religious artifacts, and since the deities were thought to travel in this fashion in the sky, the Milky Way was seen as a great waterway that was as important as the Nile on Earth; cult statues of the deities traveled by boats on water and ritual boats were carried about by the priests during festival ceremonies. Temples included barque shrines, sometimes more than one in a temple, in which the sacred barques rested when a procession was not in progress.[9][10] In these stations, the boats would be watched over and cared for by the priests. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BarqueA deity or god is a supernatural being considered to be sacred and worthy of worship due to having authority over the universe, nature or human life. The Oxford Dictionary of English defines deity as a god or goddess, or anything revered as divine.[1] C. Scott Littleton defines a deity as "a being with powers greater than those of ordinary humans, but who interacts with humans, positively or negatively, in ways that carry humans to new levels of consciousness, beyond the grounded preoccupations of ordinary life" If there's any merit to my observation, the HMS Beagle was the barque that transported the theory of evolution to it's place as a modern diety.
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Post by Michael on Feb 20, 2024 12:12:57 GMT
From The Voyage of the Beagle - wiki Darwin spent most of this time exploring on land (three years and three months on land; 18 months at sea)So 33 and 18. Cool, cool, cool. @dnetarthurdent Who is this Darwin character anyway. Truth is he is just the figurehead to pin evolution on. We never "studied" evolution at school or generally in society It is just a fact that we are told to accept. No-one ever scratches the surface. De-bunking Darwin ain't going to convince the public that evolution is a scam, there will be an endless amount of talking head professors with endless credentials explaining the myriad ways that evolutionary theory has since been tested, built on, refined and verified. This is not to say that they aren't talking scientific woo, though I ain't qualified to get into it. It is another whole industry that some very clever people have a lot invested in.
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Post by Gerry on Feb 20, 2024 21:01:00 GMT
No one needs to "convince the public that evolution is a scam", because it isn't necessarily a scam in its entirety. The point of such papers is just that the elites are over-promoted fraudsters, and almost never "keen observers of nature" or "clever thinkers". So the theories presented by them shouldn't be taken for granted, but questioned & scrutinized by us.
The theories may still be partly true though, which I think is the case with evolution. Everyone can see that many critters or plants are very similar, so they must be closely situated output products of sorts, of some big process. Evolution is even one of the fields where there isn't "another whole industry" to profit from it, unlike e.g. medicine. So there's no need to fabricate a complete lie for it.
It's just that they have put the "proven" stamp on it, while the details are not very clear at all. As with the fudged physics, many false details have been chiseled in stone, to make the elites appear as unquestionable geniuses.
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Post by dentarthurdent on Feb 24, 2024 13:43:08 GMT
Now we’re getting somewhere! Miles’ Wallace paper hints that maybe the Beagle’s voyage was a spook mission, and the Charles Darwin Show was a cover story. The theory of evolution was already conjured up, and this was a convenient way to thrust it upon the world. Darwin could have spent the whole time lounging in Tenerife while the Beagle sailed to wherever it actually sailed.
What was the Beagle really doing? What activity was so vital that it needed total secrecy? The Conquistadors didn’t seem to think gold, God, and glory was a mission statement to be kept secret (suggesting that they had a similar mission as the Beagle’s and the 3 Gs was another cover). Scouting minerals doesn’t seem spookworthy, it’s not like just anyone could sail the world in that era.
So what Phoenician activity was it, that required so much secrecy?
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Post by Michael on Feb 24, 2024 17:40:23 GMT
The point of such papers is just that the elites are over-promoted fraudsters, and almost never "keen observers of nature" or "clever thinkers". So the theories presented by them shouldn't be taken for granted, but questioned & scrutinized by us. The theories may still be partly true though, which I think is the case with evolution. Everyone can see that many critters or plants are very similar, so they must be closely situated output products of sorts, of some big process. Evolution is even one of the fields where there isn't "another whole industry" to profit from it, unlike e.g. medicine. So there's no need to fabricate a complete lie for it. It's just that they have put the "proven" stamp on it, while the details are not very clear at all. As with the fudged physics, many false details have been chiseled in stone, to make the elites appear as unquestionable geniuses. I thought I had replied to this, but obviously I glitched So the theories presented by them shouldn't be taken for granted, but questioned & scrutinized by us.
Indeed, that is the whole point of the scientific method. Strange that they can ditch that when it suits. Obviously there are limits and propositions, evidence and counters have to be scrutinised with rigour on both sides. Our side needs to be above reproach otherwise we are doing their blackwashing for them. They have gallons of whitewash to keep themselves looking clean and plenty of mud to keep their opponents looking all sorts of broken. The theories may still be partly true though, which I think is the case with evolution.
Indeed again, I thought I did a whole bit about selective breeding, at least in part supporting the theory and pre-dating it. Some of the timelines seem suspect to me. I was just reading this week about settlements in Britain from 225,000 years ago with early flint and quartz tools. My thought was - we didn't make much progress in the next 223,000 years in the UK, why? Proven stampand thrice indeed, they do like their stamp of approval that they give each other and then label all doubters as raving conspiracy theorists. , in our house we call it "people marking their own homework." They have many a method of whitewashing, blackwashing and gaslighting.
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Post by Michael on Feb 24, 2024 17:44:55 GMT
Now we’re getting somewhere! Miles’ Wallace paper hints that maybe the Beagle’s voyage was a spook mission, and the Charles Darwin Show was a cover story. The theory of evolution was already conjured up, and this was a convenient way to thrust it upon the world. Darwin could have spent the whole time lounging in Tenerife while the Beagle sailed to wherever it actually sailed. What was the Beagle really doing? What activity was so vital that it needed total secrecy? The Conquistadors didn’t seem to think gold, God, and glory was a mission statement to be kept secret (suggesting that they had a similar mission as the Beagle’s and the 3 Gs was another cover). Scouting minerals doesn’t seem spookworthy, it’s not like just anyone could sail the world in that era. So what Phoenician activity was it, that required so much secrecy? Cover for what indeed. Maybe the Bagel was the Epstein jet of its day. Kidding....... I have no proof to back up such an outrageous claim, and have no idea what the Epstein jet / flight logs are actually doing. Distraction?
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Post by dentarthurdent on Feb 24, 2024 21:49:41 GMT
I don’t think the Epstein Show is real. More distraction, or chum in the water to get us all riled up.
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Post by Michael on Feb 25, 2024 15:04:53 GMT
I don’t think the Epstein Show is real. More distraction, or chum in the water to get us all riled up. Yes, I tend to agree. So in that sense HMS Bagel may have been doing the same ting. A grand mirage.
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Post by ducky2 on Feb 26, 2024 22:36:20 GMT
i think the purpose of darwin/evolution was to start to replace religion/faith with science and "facts". the new religion is science. no more need to pray and hope. no more need for an unseen 'god'. it would help explain why so many blindly put on a mask, stayed indoors and got vaccinated. maybe obama said it best (maybe not) "the science is settled". i could be wrong.
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Post by Michael on Feb 28, 2024 18:36:27 GMT
i think the purpose of darwin/evolution was to start to replace religion/faith with science and "facts". the new religion is science. no more need to pray and hope. no more need for an unseen 'god'. it would help explain why so many blindly put on a mask, stayed indoors and got vaccinated. maybe obama said it best (maybe not) "the science is settled". i could be wrong. How about they were starting to lose the control that Christianity had given them so they switched to the latest thing to control the sheep? All idle speculation on my part really though.
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