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Post by stephen on Dec 7, 2022 23:46:21 GMT
One of the most-discussed talking points from the old CTTF.
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Post by Daniel Archer on Dec 8, 2022 10:39:28 GMT
The poll is wrong, i can not even make a choice, all of them are wrong.
Any supplement is bad, nobody needs any supplement. All you need is found in nature.
In nature humans can consume raw animal liver and then it is very healthy. I eat raw liver everyday, it is awesome.
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Post by dentarthurdent on Dec 8, 2022 20:59:18 GMT
I agree with Daniel.
My observation is, humans can eat just about anything and still function.
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Post by stephen on Dec 8, 2022 22:16:03 GMT
The poll is wrong, i can not even make a choice, all of them are wrong. Any supplement is bad, nobody needs any supplement. All you need is found in nature. In nature humans can consume raw animal liver and then it is very healthy. I eat raw liver everyday, it is awesome. I figured "irrelevant red herring" would cover that? |
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Post by Davey on Dec 9, 2022 3:57:41 GMT
Grant Genereaux just gave his end of year report on his blog. He has now been eating a No-A diet for 8 years. Rice and Beef. Nothing else. Zero A. He has none of the health problems which we have been told occur with Vitamin A deficiency. Hair good. Eyesight good. Skin good. He is now proposing to re-conduct the 1915 experiment upon which modern Vitamin A theory is based.
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Post by Daniel Archer on Dec 9, 2022 8:55:16 GMT
There is Vitamin A in beef! So GG is either a moron or as i suspect not entirely honest.
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Post by Davey on Dec 9, 2022 11:58:56 GMT
I just looked up beef in two different nutrition databases and beef has zero, or a non-measurable amount of Vitamin A.
Why so defensive and belligerent, Daniel Archer? You should try not to be a conversation killer on your own forum.
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lol
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Post by lol on Dec 9, 2022 16:45:12 GMT
James Sloane said some years ago at www.curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=1699697"The body still needs very small amounts of vitamin A. Vitamin A stores and builds up in the liver. Too much vitamin A can damage the liver and it can damage bones at much lower levels than are required to damage the liver." At www.curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=1603200 he quoted another source, saying: "Serum Vitamin A Levels: Controls the release of stored vitamin A from the liver." At curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1765487 he said: "[Marshall] is making it sound like vitamin D is the only regulator of the immune system, which it is not. There are so many other compounds involved in immunity, many of them being other nutrients such as vitamin A, vitamin C, vitamin E, zinc, copper, etc. ... On the other hand I do not believe in megadosing of vitamins or other nutrients since this can lead to other problems." Here's what Dr. Berg said about vitamin A at www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo7i9bFs4BwHe didn't mention the danger of having too much of it, but he said vitamin A is needed to keep some body tissues moist, like eyes, skin etc. He said that being fat-soluble it can penetrate into cells which have a fat (lipid) membrane. |
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Post by Davey on Dec 9, 2022 23:03:54 GMT
Thanks for weighing in with some actual material, lol.
Genereaux believes there is a connection between excess vitamin A and many of the newly discovered "auto-immune" diseases/syndromes. After being diagnosed with eczema(auto-immune) and being given a list of trigger foods, he examined the trigger foods and discovered the only common substance between the trigger foods was Vitamin A. This launched him on an investigation of the "science" behind our alleged dire need for Vitamin A. He quickly decided to go on a No-A diet. He was free of eczema in about 1 year. He has continued the No-A diet as an ongoing experiment. One of the many interesting things he points out is that any one who eats a fairly normal diet is in no danger of Vitamin A deficiency, since almost all foods contain it. I went on a No-A/Low-A diet myself for 18 months and I can tell you, the list of foods that are No-A, Low-A is minuscule in comparison. I examined my own diet, which was Keto then Paleo after finishing up with the Keto. My diet consistently delivered 10-20 times the RDA for A, which is 3000IU. With no supplementation! I decided to give my liver a rest.
BTW - GG is neither a moron, nor a liar. He is a geologist and an engineer. He systematically examined the literature on A, concluded that the supporting studies were far too flawed to justify the constant harping, mandatory fortification of staple foods, etc. His books are freely available on the web, as is his ongoing blog.
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Post by Daniel Archer on Dec 16, 2022 9:56:29 GMT
I just looked up beef in two different nutrition databases and beef has zero, or a non-measurable amount of Vitamin A. Why so defensive and belligerent, Daniel Archer? You should try not to be a conversation killer on your own forum. It is not my forum, it is ours. I just don't like GG, i watched a YT video he did where was willingly killing his gerbils or whatever. I do not like his face. I first follow my intuition and it is usually right. I did the same with Jordan Peterson, watched a video and after a few minutes i noticed this guy was full of it. A complete opposite of these faux pas popes is Miles Mathis, where from the first paper (science) i immediately said to myself, this guy is on to something. So that is my scientific approach, and yes i am not always likeable on forums and i don't care... you also have to read between the lines with me, because i can be joky, satiric, ironic and serious separately and at the same time. So far GG is just parroted by some peeps on CttF and now also here, there is no MEAT (pun intended) to this fake Vitamin A situation... Regards, Daniel |
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Post by stephen on Dec 22, 2022 4:33:52 GMT
Grant Genereaux just gave his end of year report on his blog. He has now been eating a No-A diet for 8 years. Rice and Beef. Nothing else. Zero A. He has none of the health problems which we have been told occur with Vitamin A deficiency. Hair good. Eyesight good. Skin good. He is now proposing to re-conduct the 1915 experiment upon which modern Vitamin A theory is based. Did he keep stringent records, though? He can claim whatever he wants but we need data. Calories, weight, frequency and so forth. I am very open to whatever findings GG comes across. I am not some kind of irrational zealot but seek rational and consistent evidence. |
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Post by Davey on Dec 22, 2022 22:42:10 GMT
Grant Genereaux just gave his end of year report on his blog. He has now been eating a No-A diet for 8 years. Rice and Beef. Nothing else. Zero A. He has none of the health problems which we have been told occur with Vitamin A deficiency. Hair good. Eyesight good. Skin good. He is now proposing to re-conduct the 1915 experiment upon which modern Vitamin A theory is based. Did he keep stringent records, though? He can claim whatever he wants but we need data. Calories, weight, frequency and so forth. I am very open to whatever findings GG comes across. I am not some kind of irrational zealot but seek rational and consistent evidence. There's his blog. |
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Post by Davey on Jan 28, 2023 20:15:09 GMT
Well, this place is turning out to be a bust. You might consider opening up the entire board to guest posting. Even the big popular forums lag when they shut out anonymous or non-member posters.
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