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Post by garlicsoup on Dec 11, 2022 22:19:55 GMT
Population control is demonstrably a part of the program laid out by the world managers. However in recent years it has come to look like a crazy topic, connected with agents like AJ, and overhyped with predictions that don't come true and burn people out with fear. For example, the prediction in 2020 that some large percentage of Earth's population would be wiped out.
The fact is that population controllers do not need to wipe out that many people; they are already achieving their targets through economics, propaganda, medicine, etc.
Whoever they are, the "Rockefellers" have their name and their money involved with many population control organizations, including the Population Council, and they have funded educational programs aimed at reducing family size.
These topics are studied in many universities, by generously funded departments, looking at issues like how family budget restrictions reduce childbirth, and (self-referentially in some cases I'd bet) higher eduction for women reduces the number of children they have.
One might infer that managing the population of workers is similar to managing the human resources of a company, on the scale of planetary ownership.
I'd like to hear people's opinions on this phenomenon, as I think it's important to discuss and understand some "current events" which are not merely hoaxes but actually the real ongoing forces influencing our lives.
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Post by lol on Dec 12, 2022 0:01:53 GMT
Miles' view seems to be that the main goal of the ruling class is to attain maximum possible wealth for themselves while stripping the rest of us of as much wealth as possible. I gather that he's approximately correct. I presume that the ruling class lets their Intelligence agencies determine how to do that and how much human population there should be and what they/we should be doing.
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Post by rkin on Dec 12, 2022 12:20:50 GMT
I don't believe that population control is evil. I think it happens to be true that the Earth is overpopulated. I don't support the idea of killing anyone but I think that population control aimed at reducing world population is a good idea.
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Post by borist on Dec 12, 2022 12:21:57 GMT
Charles Darwin's bipolar view of humanity implicitly defines a distinct civilised Homo Domesticus subspecies that has diverged from the savage Homo Sapiens. Those running the Globull Shoah consider the domesticated mainly Western populations as cash cows, while are somewhat frighted of the undomesticated inhabitants of the 3rd world countries, who are much more difficult to target and control. So I think they apply different strategies to different population groups. Malagabay has some good thoughts on this in four parts, start here... malagabay.wordpress.com/2022/05/30/meet-the-meek/
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Post by dentarthurdent on Dec 12, 2022 12:56:27 GMT
Look at the West’s birth rate, we’re going to decline anyway. “They” don’t need to do anything. Except stress us out about it so we’ll buy more useless crap from the cloth merchants and shipping companies.
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Post by kieran on Dec 13, 2022 19:08:40 GMT
All homo sapiens of all races are domesticated compared to chimpanzees, and the process was originally one of self-domestication with the advent of language allowing coalitions to outperform the tyrannical individual leaders that can still be observed in primates. Note that even human tyrants are still supported by a coalition of allies, whereas in chimps the alpha male bully is not supported by the rest of the tribe. The extent of domestication varies by race, with Asians being the most domesticated (higher levels of neoteny) and blacks the least. Of course following the evolutionary domestication there was the psychological domestication by the Jewish ruling class using propaganda, but that is a separate process (or perhaps a continuation) subsequent to the self-domestication that occurred about 300 KYA, according to Richard Wrangham.
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Post by Daniel Archer on Dec 26, 2022 11:41:02 GMT
I am on the fence with this one.
To me the fake pandemic was about money for the most part, some people dying from a vaccine is a bonus, but i do not think it was a goal.
I know one person (in Israel) that died after the second shot. He was in his late sixties, pretty fit, but had rheuma and took pills for that (instead of stop eating grains and vegetable oils), so an underlying condition.
Other than that, most people seem as bad as they always were. (once you start eating raw meat you start to see even better how unhealthy everybody is).
Is there any evidence the puny's are actually out to get us?
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Post by lol on Dec 27, 2022 21:32:23 GMT
I don't believe that population control is evil. I think it happens to be true that the Earth is overpopulated. I don't support the idea of killing anyone but I think that population control aimed at reducing world population is a good idea. Yeah, Earth's ruling class is way over-populated. Exterminate them, not by death but reform, so people no longer belong to that class. It's NAIVE, IMO, to say Earth is humanly overpopulated. That's accepting mainstream views IMO. Paul Stich in his book, Fighting the Food Giants, published in the 1970s I think, said one country, like Sudan, could feed the entire world population by itself, if governments didn't interfere with distribution. I think he said the Earth could easily support 20 billion people. For the past ten years or more it's been found how to make desert lands productive for agriculture. Probably well over half of desert lands could be made productive at low cost. Tundras, taigas, and even oceans and seas are capable of providing food and housing for many people.
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Post by lol on Dec 27, 2022 21:34:13 GMT
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Post by lol on Dec 27, 2022 21:40:09 GMT
... Of course following the evolutionary domestication there was the psychological domestication by the Jewish ruling class using propaganda, but that is a separate process (or perhaps a continuation) subsequent to the self-domestication that occurred about 300 KYA, according to Richard Wrangham. I'm not a creationist, but creationist research has better info on dating the Earth and populations. I uncovered some significant evidence myself as well. 1..4 PROOF SEDIMENTARY ROCK IS NOT OLD cataclysmicearthhistory.substack.com/p/12..26 DATING METHODS (They are very inaccurate) cataclysmicearthhistory.substack.com/p/226-dating-methods
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Post by doormanthe3rd on Jan 18, 2023 22:43:44 GMT
I think no one has mentioned that population decline in the west has demographic imperatives. We have to understand that in the US we have huge medicaid and medicare and aid for the elderly. Financial committments that are so popular that it is almost death alone that can reduce the price tag. The US is borrowing constantly pushing back the inevitable cuts, but that is equivalent to pushing the real costs onto future generations. Its insane, and now we are seeing inflation, a kind of tax that elites can consider just a reduction of profits while countries and people get squeezed to death.
Overpopulation is often framed as a global problem, but its also highly variable by region. Take africa, they have the space and resources of sudan and much more but we see populations climb way faster than the west and no realistic way to feed them as this growth curve climbs, much less allow them to take part in an energy rich economy. And we see corruption and failure to distribute often with gov interference. Whole cultures there would almost rather see people die than change the way they produce food or run the state. Any change has to come at great personal cost, often armed revolution.
We see immigration, even what we might term immigration pressure, as conditions in one region become a reason to migrate to the west and take the place and jobs of those children which were not born locally. I see this is a boon for any phonecian, a cheaper, downtrodden, captured and controllable workforce that can perform much of what is known as unskilled labor. We also see automation at the high end of skilled labor, realistic ways to reduce the staffing cost to produce the same old level or even to expand. These are pressures that have to be balanced by anybody "planning" anything or its like Miles says it will collapse on thier head. Reducing new births in the west is fine if immigration is maintained.
I don't think we can realistically predict the future, but as cheaper immigrant labor and a demographic decline shape the scene, any potential huge "die off" is absorbable. The key is that they avoid blame for it. So how covid was treated in some cases seemingly lethal to people, it removes those elderly entitled to expensive aid and guarantees financial incentives. As the financial system chugs onward to an inevitable correction of boom and bust, its just necessary for a phoney to keep thier head above water and plan to come out on top. I don't think they would notice too much if a cyber attack brought starvation to thier own fellow citizens, they just have to get to that boat full of gold and survive in a more old fashion way somewhere the starving cannot reach them. And that is to assume the starving will even understand their plight enough to target those really responsible. If they can't walk the streets without a digital scannable ID, it would raise the costs to fight ANY system.
I see the most likely scenario as financial collapse. That could be mild or severe, it could be set off by criminality or a move to gov issued crypto that becomes mandatory. It could be triggered by a cyber attack if it was big and broad enough, or it could happen if China cuts off our supply of chips coming out of taiwan. It could happen if supply chains or energy is disrupted or become too expensive, it could be triggered by a natural disaster like a Coronal mass ejection. Real outlier threats exist but are too unlikely to speculate as to when they would happen. I feel like planning to CAUSE a mass dieoff is not even that difficult, but how to surf through it safely is where most of the planning might take place. That is demonstrated by Covidianism, it was control of the media and certain health authorities worldwide to the level where people were convinced an extincion level event was occuring. It would be safer to fake it, but if something really does happen the planning for it is similiar and cannot necessarily predict all outcomes. Thus we see the bunkers in New Zealand, people with clever ways of getting wealth out of the the US [its not easy] even bothering to renounce citizenship would be only for those really planned ahead.
Engagement by the my fellow US citizens on this issue is so low, so polluted. Even at CTTF, literally we witnessed disinfo designed to fake out people who already believed there was a mass die off agenda. What I witnessed there was hardly informed and developed discussion on the topic. We have lol posting patents, but so far I see no reason these patents are any bombshell of intricate planning for the covid hoaxes. Discussion here is also not engaged, for instance where are you Garlic soup? I've now dropped my opinion as you requested, as have several others, are you just going to post once and then disengage? That is allowed but in the future I doubt I'll be too psyched to spend a half hour typing. No idea if anybody is even gonna read this. . .
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Post by lol on Jan 19, 2023 0:53:22 GMT
I'll try to comment more later, Doorman, but for now I just want to mention that the U.S. doesn't borrow money. It has monetary sovereignty, so it just creates whatever money it wants to spend. I believe there's a lot of intentional deception involved in mainstream discussions of economics. I think Mythfighter.com has the best info around on economics. The guy's politics and science are nuts, but his economics seems to be the best.
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Post by doormanthe3rd on Jan 19, 2023 2:13:52 GMT
Respectfully I disagree, money borrowing is the best way to frame it. It is so complicated, more full of intentional deception than any other subject, I agree, but to bring it in a comment forum does not allow me to discuss the fed, the sale of treasury bills, and servicing the national debt and repercussions to the world economy. I'll check out mythfighter.com briefly. found a problem already: mythfighter.com/2009/09/07/introduction/"Then, to “pay off” the “debt,” the government simply debits your T-security account and credits your checking account. Thus, the government could pay off all its debt tomorrow, simply by debiting all T-security accounts and crediting the “lenders'” checking accounts." This is extremely misleading. Its not "simply" done. The connections to the world economy and how money is actually used and flows would be EXTREMELY disrupted by such a move. I doubt you or myth man can accurately depict that scenario, but calling it simple is quite a misdirection.
" If taxes fell to $0 or rose to $100 trillion, this would not affect by even one dollar, the federal government’s ability to spend." Sorry there is no way I'm going to go along with a statement like this.
"Further, (opinion)all tax (money-destroying) systems are unfair. See: rodgermitchell.com/FairTaxes.html. For a country with the unlimited power to create money, spending is not related in any way to taxing." Here seems to be the con of myth man. Although we are a powerful country, and we can make enormous amounts of what is the worlds reserve currency and spur on economic activity by doing so, it is not unlimited. That is a lie. He doesn't mention anywhere that this currency is the world reserve currency. and here he contradicts himself:
"Opinion: Federal money creation is constrained only by inflation, not by supply, debt, deficits, GDP, debt repayments or any other factor — only inflation. History indicates: a) We never have reached that point and b) Such inflation could be prevented and cured by raising interest rates (for minimal inflation) and/or by federal purchase and distribution of the scarce items causing the inflation."
So is money creation "unlimited" or "constrained"? If they have to distribute food, it is NOT unlimited, lol why is so easy to spot this cruft? Did you really analyze this guy? Already I want to put this guys economics into the bin you put his politics and his science. sorry
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Post by lol on Jan 20, 2023 21:32:17 GMT
You seem to be saying that Mitchell is a conman trying to fool his readers. Is that what you meant? If so, aren't there any people who are not conmen, but honest and who just make a few mistakes? Does everyone have to have ulterior motives? Do I have an ulterior motive like Josh and Jared suspected?
What's the national debt you're referring to? Isn't that just the money supply? I think it's absurd to call money debt and I think Mitchell has said the same. I believe conman economists have come up with the idea that money is debt that's borrowed into existence. I don't believe it's borrowed. What would be proof that it's borrowed?
How would any amount of taxes have any effect on the government's ability to create or spend money?
What would make the government unable to create more money?
Why would it matter that the dollar is the world's reserve currency?
I think Mitchell says the ability to create dollars is unlimited, but the government chooses to constrain it based on inflation. Isn't that plausible?
Anyway, I don't claim that his info is totally free of errors. Do you know anyone who never uses the wrong words or never makes any mistakes in their writing or speaking?
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Post by Borut on Feb 1, 2023 19:50:00 GMT
The problem for them is not quantity but quality of the people. Besides. Overpopulation is caused by breading humans not natural development of the population. Think American natives. Normal society tend to balance with the nature. Society run by eugenics do not. Think also, if price of human drops, population rise. What I mean is, the price of American native hunter was higher for their society than is that of the farmer in France for them.
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