doormanthe3rd
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Post by doormanthe3rd on Feb 11, 2023 22:37:57 GMT
To say that "maybe" CTTF is doing it wrong is absurd, Josh abandoned Miles and the blog for 9+ months. "miles mathis said: December 3, 2022 at 6:35 am [Emphasis mine] Quit complaining and start a new one somewhere. Let me know and I will link to it. I agree this one has been left to rot, I don’t know why. But nothing lasts forever. I assume Josh felt he had better things to do than moderate childish squabbles all day." cuttingthroughthefog.com/2018/11/09/current-events-discussion-thread/comment-page-172/#comment-222288 and you can see many responses including mine there. If you want to know Josh's explanation you go here cuttingthroughthefog.com/2022/12/24/best-of-2022/snippit "After a while, it was just too much and I felt complete dread at the thought of trying to clean house and getting back into the habit of sifting through a bunch of pending comments every day – not to mention facing whatever justifiable frustration and anger many of you are probably feeling." There is not really a question that CTTF was doing it wrong. If anyone had the posters at CTTF dancing around it was Josh.
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Post by Daniel Archer on Feb 12, 2023 10:00:51 GMT
You are making something out of nothing, who cares what somebody does with his personal blog, Josh can do whatever he wants. I would agree with his sentiment, sifting through comments and moderating a wordpress blog is not fun, so why bother. I'm moving on.
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doormanthe3rd
Might not be a bot, but we still don’t trust him or her
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Post by doormanthe3rd on Feb 12, 2023 11:19:19 GMT
If you don't even believe in forum rot, community, or that Josh EXPLICITLY said people had a justified "anger", why post in this topic of discussion? You actually came in here and started giving me advice on how to live my life while telling me the blog is to be used as we see fit. Follow your own drummer, I don't think you can give me a new purpose in life Daniel, its hilarious that you would even try to tell me I made something out nothing. Why don't you find another person posting here to insult, I'm sure it will all go well.
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Post by dentarthurdent on Feb 12, 2023 13:19:08 GMT
SKATE is a narcissistic troll. It makes me want to visit CTTF even less than before. Why Josh lets it continue says more to me about Josh than about SKATE.
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Post by Daniel Archer on Feb 12, 2023 21:26:43 GMT
If you don't even believe in forum rot, community, or that Josh EXPLICITLY said people had a justified "anger", why post in this topic of discussion? You actually came in here and started giving me advice on how to live my life while telling me the blog is to be used as we see fit. Follow your own drummer, I don't think you can give me a new purpose in life Daniel, its hilarious that you would even try to tell me I made something out nothing. Why don't you find another person posting here to insult, I'm sure it will all go well. Well, i think everyone reading along senses you are the one seeking trouble where there is none, stirring up apparent contradictions that do not exist, conflating what people think and say.. In all, you are welcome here, but in my mind 'meat' trumps whatever pet peeves you have, so say something interesting, write a paper of your own, complaining and whining does not help... IMNSHO
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doormanthe3rd
Might not be a bot, but we still don’t trust him or her
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Post by doormanthe3rd on Feb 12, 2023 23:48:58 GMT
DentArthurDent, I got a bit of narcissism, yes from the beginning. I didn't get troll so much. Repetitive and disgusting were my takes, which of course could be troll behavior. She got several people to interact with her, none of them seemed too wary of a troll which one generally ignores if possible; most did. The "show": a while before anybody countered, and the whole "getting her money back" seems the prohibited "ax to grind" that it is claimed will result in being shown the door. Identifying trolls, spooks, disrupters, infiltrators, chatty sorts of undisciplined types WITHIN our CTTF posters is a subject running parallel to Miles' work. Avoiding paranoia and Not-a-baron's "forum sniping", and generally "lines not to cross", should be an ethic that is cultivated with clarification.
Daniel, CTTF was doing it wrong for 9 months, its a fact and not my "pet peeves" or complaining and whining. Josh cautioned not-a-baron for behavior I have criticized for many months, not-a even used my terminology of "forum sniping" and apologized. Its obvious I changed the culture there a little bit, and in a direction Josh seems to agree with.
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ska
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Post by ska on Feb 25, 2023 12:36:51 GMT
@ doormanthe3rd, You had a link to current events of around March 2020, and reading through some of Tony's comments made me realize that I unjustly stereotyped him, here, by saying that I would have banned him from the first word. After seeing his older contributions I take it back. In one comment he exposed what was actually happening in N.Y.C. contrary to what the propaganda news was reporting. I also read Miles response to the article that you had referenced but didn't think that he was trying to reprove you. It seemed like more of a "sighing" response directed at Matt Stoller rather than at you. Your followup comment was unnecessarily lengthy too. Dissertation style.
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doormanthe3rd
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Post by doormanthe3rd on Feb 26, 2023 2:23:35 GMT
Thanks for the feedback ska, Tony is not without his contributions, I don't agree with any ban generally. Also I didn't write a dissertation, or employ its style, I can bring up several entire papers from Miles that revolve around a Guardian source, so a SIGH right back at him, why is anybody reading those sources? Yes Matt Stoller is problematic, but for me he had word on the ground of the backroom discussion about how many trillions would be incorporated into the Cares Act. Did anybody else even have a discussion of this? Is there a better source? At the time it was all a provisional bill and scary, but Stoller turned out to have a clue as to what actually happened! Miles says himself its all a sift, you have to go into all sources looking for clues, what clues did he offer in his response? Some bullshit about how a certain source is offlimits because nobody has a reason to read it? Miles went on to write a paper about this treasury raid, so strickly "second door" material? I don't see any way my post was worthy of some sigh, sorry. The CARES act passed in a rush, unread in many cases, while I was under a general shutdown instucted not to leave my house unless it was necessary, my job had evaporated, etc. Meanwhile Miles was outing the BKkiller, sorry but intellectually I have to tear him to shreds on the basic facts, ie. my closing comment which got ignored.
My post incorporated some humor and didn't feature some obscure gematria or useless anagams, no alice cooper music videos, and unlike SKATE it wasn't ended with a "just wondering, lol" which they used TWICE. I had no idea if I was being called a spook or if my mistake would be held against me in that way, the culture is basically a containment zone along unspecified guidelines and I was trying to contribute. My mistake!
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doormanthe3rd
Might not be a bot, but we still don’t trust him or her
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Post by doormanthe3rd on Feb 27, 2023 0:48:15 GMT
Now Tony is going to teach us with StarTrek videos, about who the real enemy is [enemy not mentioned]. And Miles is watching Tucker, why would anybody view such sources? Ska, try and see how flat this citique falls when used against Miles himself, he is allowed to post gaslighting propaganda so he can tear it apart, but please find a non-spooky source for that 3.5trillion spending bill moving through congress during a lockdown. SIGH! Also, for dissertion style writing see Francesa Turkey part I and part II and another with just the number 0815 that unfortunatly does not deal with any current event I can detect and has gotten zero response. Good thing I was blocked, I don't ignore stuff thoroughly enough to the requisite etiquette known to be practiced by fine CTTF practitioners. Ska, do you see the absurdity that yawns out when you take a different perspective?
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ska
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Post by ska on Mar 6, 2023 22:49:28 GMT
I'm not saying that you don't have a point. Your question should've been directed in a more direct way at Miles himself, if you really cared that much. You answered him with a big long answer that even I had a hard time comprehending. Why not just make it a one sentence question directed at him?? You made it way too complicated. I mean, everyone perceived where you were coming from anyway. In retrospect, it may have helped if you had reiterated your main point without adding Stoller's name. You really didn't want to be in a place where you would go and make it a point of contention. That's gonna drive people away. It's like you don't even understand these simple basics doormanthe3rd.
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doormanthe3rd
Might not be a bot, but we still don’t trust him or her
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Post by doormanthe3rd on Mar 7, 2023 1:50:51 GMT
A point of contention is exactly what it was. Mentioning the name is what Miles was contending, its the only thing Maria did not do in her similiar post. Still, look at how he phrased it, he fell on his face intelectually. I have now posted a bunch of examples of such, though never grouped them like that.
I understand people will be driven away, I understand its apolitical to be in a point of contention, but then Miles went into a fantasy, "why is anybody listening to . . " He says he can take anybody on, anybody on the internet, and hold his own.
Not me it seems.
With a new poster, he thought to rebuke me and only puked down the front of his own shirt. Still, nobody is perfect. To broaden my critique: Miles is potentially chasing phantoms that are not real, spooks typically. This point of contention is bound to be politically damaging to me in this community, right?
So what? Did I read it prohibited in the rules? OOOOhhh, its those unwritten political rules. So I was ridiculed and then blocked. Seems pretty straight forward. Like I said, its disappointing, not upsetting or offensive. Miles can't hold his own, but then I have no interest in attacking him.
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ska
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Post by ska on May 18, 2023 3:03:53 GMT
I definitely see what you're saying. But what I was saying is that in driving people away with you're big dissertation style reply you also, most likely, drove Miles away too! Lol
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