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Post by alr on Jan 4, 2023 12:15:02 GMT
'Hmmm ... what's all that stuff around the edges of the Earth?'
Klingons on the starboard bow? Or a cut and paste job.
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Post by doorman the 3rd on Jan 5, 2023 7:30:08 GMT
Its ouptut from photoshop according to you, are we supposed to just believe you JUST raised levels? Did you inspect the proprietary software to see what process it uses to "raise levels"? If you look at the earth itself it seems there are blocky artifacts there as well, could it be a limitation of the photoshop software itself, or are the borg invading in thier pretty blue landing crafts now?
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Post by doorman the 3rd on Jan 7, 2023 10:37:44 GMT
Found higher quality images apod.nasa.gov/apod/fap/image/0512/ 26k is the size I get for what lol posted, but in that directory we get two jpgs as8-14-2383.jpg 19-Dec-2005 17:26 58K as8-14-2383HR.jpg 19-Dec-2005 17:27 304K Note that .jpg is often compressed from something that came before it but honestly I have not found data on what the original format is or if the original digital scan of the film is available. Why does this matter? Analyzing images that have been compressed into .jpg is not the same as an analysis of the original, conversion into jpg may introduce any number of differences. We don't know what version of photoshop, but adobe's currect offering offers the ability to change levels on a histogam with three different aspects "shadows, midtones, and highlights". helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/levels-adjustment.html We don't expect all three to be level shifted at the same time, behvior for each is different. Perhaps someone can address what process was used that ended with weird blocky artifacts, but I'm sure its easier to just attack me and my credibility than address any issues I bring up. |
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Post by doorman the 3rd on Jan 7, 2023 10:44:32 GMT
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Post by lol on Jan 8, 2023 19:36:32 GMT
The Moon has the same sort of color patterns on the edge. Is that pattern due to the edges of the Moon and the Earth being cut out and the pics pasted onto a black background?
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Post by doorman the 3rd on Jan 8, 2023 22:13:54 GMT
lol, I don't think its even worth considering a cut and paste at this point, but there is no way I can rule it out. I zoomed into the 193 megabyte .tif file made available at that nasa site [by request] and its "black" areas are full of dark color, it looks terrible but there are no forms or halos at the edges between dark and light like in yours. I zoomed into the two files available above that as8-14-2383.jpg as8-14-2383HR.jpg and it also lacks the color patterns shown on your image, but it also looks bad. The only conclusion I can make is that your photo from wikimedia was altered to make it look better, to have deeper blacks and a set of colors that seem to lack the greenish tinge of the big file. This tells me it was maniplated by software, without knowing that process its not possible to guess at why those forms were generated, but the .jpg algorithim is known to make junk at high contrast edges, where it goes from dark to light which is both true of where the earth and moon meet the dark areas. This is why is useless to analyze compressed .jpg images and start making conclusions. If you want to know more, here is a site that explains the junk, commonly known as jpg artifacts that can arise when a file goes from 193 meg down to 30 k in size, jpg is considered "lossy" but in fact it will create junk depending on its settings. photo.stackexchange.com/questions/19270/what-are-jpeg-artifacts-and-what-can-be-done-about-themAlso, if it seems weird I have all these other images at hand, I use reverse image search at tineye.com. I found the first set that way, and the second set by searching on the official nasa name of as8-14-2383, as one would expect its a very famous photo.
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Post by Tonnie on Jan 9, 2023 7:06:00 GMT
Another weird thing is that there is no difference or boundary of the "black" color of the shadow part of the earth and space (in the high res tif photo). But I have to say, I have found pictures of the moon with the same problem.
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Post by alr on Jan 10, 2023 0:39:56 GMT
Interesting video 'Science proves that NASA faked the moon landings - Moon landing Hoax': www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7pzg9xpAOE&t=476sInteresting comment by gottagoat 'My dad built the moon set, its poly urephane foam, universal studios said it was for the movie 2001 BC, but they never used it for that movie, they used it for moon landing. My dad was a merchant marine and the only surviver of the SS John M Clayton, battle of the Coral Sea, he would never have knowingly decieved (sic) the US in this way.' |
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Post by doormanthe3rd on Jan 10, 2023 1:40:55 GMT
If the dad would never decieve, he would know perhaps it wasn't used for the movie, but how would it be known Universal used it for the moon landing? The son wouldn't have inside info necessarily.
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Post by doormanthe3rd on Jan 10, 2023 2:05:07 GMT
Also, you started the video from a point, I'm watching and I don't see much science. The unnamed fellow at some conference is going on about the van allen belts, then immeadiately concludes it was a hoax. He claims that x-rays produced from charged van allen particles hitting metal in the spacecraft would have french fried the astronauts, where is the science exactly? Can he make the case that unhealthful levels of x-rays would be produced and strike the occupants? I wonder why claims like this, where its basically an assertion without evidence, would be included. "the russians knew about it all along" how does he know this exactly?
Also the guy before says his theory that NASA was airbrushing out alien artifacts, but that some of the photos/info were valid. Valid as speculation, but honestly I wonder why you sent us there, am I to believe there is actual science somewhere in this video?
He asks why they don't train fancy telescopes on to the landing site, that they should be chomping at the bit to do so, but that these telescopes are much in demand and few seem interested in satisfying sceptics is not surprising to me at all. The speaker concludes from this that there is nothing there, again, no science I can detect.
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Post by Daniel Archer on Jun 18, 2023 7:16:09 GMT
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Post by rkin on Jun 21, 2023 2:56:20 GMT
^ That's the "Blue Marble Photo" supposedly taken by an Apollo astronaut on the way to the moon. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blue_MarbleDo you believe the Apollo missions really went to the moon? |
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Post by Daniel Archer on Jun 24, 2023 7:47:53 GMT
^ That's the "Blue Marble Photo" supposedly taken by an Apollo astronaut on the way to the moon. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blue_MarbleDo you believe the Apollo missions really went to the moon? I am not sure anymore, the first moon landing is defenitely fake and it looks like they reused the studio for the following landings, but there are some differences in the terrain, i guess i have to take a second look, the last time i was into moon landings was more than 20 years ago. This coud be a start, the last one, if that is fake and the previous ones are also fake, you really only have to disproof the last > Apollo 17: The Last Men on the Moon Regards, Daniel |
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Post by Haggishunter on Oct 12, 2023 13:20:24 GMT
Maybe the same stuff on the surface of the moon - glue where the pics were stuck to the paper?
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Post by Jan Pieterse on Oct 18, 2023 0:50:19 GMT
I agree with you, moon landings faked, ISS is faked, NASA fakemakers. (Don't believe in dinosaurs either, T. Rex is based on the kangeroo, my old teacher told me that, he said they were all based on some rare animals discovered in the 19th C. On a skool trip to a museum, they had a large skeleton of a dinosaur fake, the picture of it next to the exhibition shewed THREE bones from the shoulder/neck area that were highlighted which they claimed they'd recovered and an artist did the rest!)
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