lol
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Post by lol on Feb 22, 2023 17:09:41 GMT
Nobody has evebn a brief synopsis? I'm supposed to believe things have gotten culty recently as opposed to when I showed up two years ago? This is my cue to abandon political considerations and rip to shreds all the poor reasoning presented in this thread. I feel like those posting in this thread don't need another wall of text from me and would rather I remain silent. Still, I honestly believe I have insights on this topic that are worth considering and could be of benefit to those on the outs with Miles and CTTF. Your messages sound fine to me. I think you contribute. This is now a new page, so I also commented to Joey on the previous page. |
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Post by joey on Feb 22, 2023 19:23:01 GMT
@ lol Bad optics is when a situation makes a person appear in a negative light. As far as Miles being a moderator goes, it's quite possible. If he isn't a moderator he might as well be considering these screen grabs.
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doormanthe3rd
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Post by doormanthe3rd on Feb 23, 2023 1:41:01 GMT
Even from the beginning Miles would suggest or request certain posters be dealt with, this relation was never clarified but for sure happened on forum and not behind the scenes in email or something.
Miles mentioned spam, my impression here is that truthdecay was emailing both him and Josh and they were refusing his email in some sense. This is behind the scenes, we don't have any data on this part of the dispute. Also, TruthDecay is not banned, he is told its not a joke forum which was a subject I brought up over recent months and was accused of trying to ban laughter or some other absurdity. He also apparently leaves of his own violition. Perhaps he is banned, no data is available.
I really think its worth noting that the whole "bots" and "shills" canard comes up. Posters are being "jacketed" and by that I mean labeled spooks,bots,shills, sometimes not explicitly but only with innuendo. This is beyond any ordinary consideration of bad optics or narcissism or even harsh treatment of individual posters or posts. Its a basic assertion that a post is designed to disrupt, when that assertion cannot really be considered conclusively. I think what is overactive here is this jacketing, they are erring on the side of caution and treating disruptions of some kind as intentional disruptions because they want to limit time spent on issues like this.
I think it is a tough line to draw whether a certain poster is intentionally disruptive or is just a bit undiciplined and cannot actually contribute anything ontopic. What is the topic? Of course taking shots at Biden seems to be an act that doesn't appreciate the work of Miles, he would I think equate a biden with a clinton or a trump, as frontmen designed to absorb our ire, thus taking pot shots at them is not exactly showing much familiarity with his approach. Should they be banned? I don't know that any messages were deleted from Truthdecay nor that he was banned for whatever that is worth.
As far as Joey's message getting deleted, I would love to have it verbatim, but failing that allow me to evaluate Joey's participation at CTTF. Its not extensive, I know it was partly the filter that turned him away for a year or so, but during that time I was able to post and actually didn't have many problems! I'd like to call attention to his post about Miles site being unavailable, and the rather condescending cat count he directed at SKATE. Neither of these are a huge deal, but I think its worth considering they are not exactly what the forum needs, I don't know why Joey, who hasn't really invested much time in making posts for a while, would feel it appropriate to step forward and ridicule a new poster, it seems a bit aggressive. Josh might have reviewed this message history before deciding on whether to leave Joey's deleted comment up. If you think about it, Miles site being down is a problem that could have many many other causes than Miles' site actually being unaccessible. One wonders how long it was down for Joey, did he need rapid access, waiting to see if it comes up would have been fine, and I personally would not have mentioned it on forum unless it kept happening to me.
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ska
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Post by ska on Feb 23, 2023 14:06:34 GMT
I think that Miles admitted to partaking in mudslinging but that he didn't start it. The last thing Miles wants is to offend his readers. The tactics of infiltrators is to get an offense/defense thing going which I'm sure he's always on guard. @ Joey: Miles questioned your sincerity when you didn't think much of the instant checkmate/intellius angle. There was no reason to go on the defense over that. I mean, he's the one that writes the papers after all so naturally he/we were raising an eyebrow over your comment. Then everyone ended up chiming in with a defense and a demonstration of that angle. Miles has also said that he's not looking for followers, but for you to be able to get to a place to be able see things on your own so that you won't need him {I'm paraphrasing}.
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ska
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Post by ska on Feb 23, 2023 14:20:08 GMT
And as far as Michael DeLoatch goes, Miles was trying to clue him in. It's not the anagrams that are the problem. I feel the same way about Tony or anyone else posting music videos. So once in a while people need to get focused and not take things so personally.
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ska
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Post by ska on Feb 23, 2023 14:24:38 GMT
Actually, I wish that there was more focus on Miles papers, especially the science papers because most of it is over my head and I want to be able to understand them.
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doormanthe3rd
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Post by doormanthe3rd on Feb 23, 2023 23:53:04 GMT
ska, thanks for chiming in, I've dealt in the past with Deloatch and his tendency to use humor and go offtopic, and also Tony and not just the posting of videos but doing it frequently. Nobody backed me up, in fact I was attacked at one point it was mentioned by Amanda "someone" was chasing Michael off of CTTF. I spent the time to make it clear he should just not dump that stuff in other people's threads but it seems that was considered some kind of unappreciated infighting. I was a lone voice on that. A focus on Miles papers is fine but remember that it was fake news/ current events, its worth treating the papers as current events but the conversation is typically lacluster, there is no space to challenge anything in those papers without a risk of getting spook-jacketed.
Miles drew first blood from me, it is covered in the SKATE show thread with a link to original thread. Apparently using the guardian as a source for the CARES act legislative behind the scenes talk, where trillions were debated casually it was reported, and somehow misusing the door-number-three metaphor got me a vague and dismissive corrective action that stands WAY out from his usual behavior. It was one of my early posts here and still I have no clear idea about it, it all seems to contradict HIS methods and also HIS advice delivered in other places.
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dtox
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Post by dtox on Feb 24, 2023 11:04:12 GMT
Undeniably Josh and Miles stick together through thick and thin. On several occasions I saw the both of them exercise censorship on CTTF- which btw should be renamed Cultish Topsy-Turvy Farce since it just has a few flies buzzing around (as DentArthurDent put it quite legitimately), including its regular paid(?) shills and egregious worshippers in that joke of a place. @ joey — Like Tonnie, I noticed when your comment was deleted, I remember you wrote something very much like "I like your papers, Miles, but this (censorship treatment) looks shit".
As regards the culty aspect in that place, some veterans visitors would confirm that the place has always been filled with zealots of all sorts, giving vibes of a sect in which the guru can do no wrong. One of the first alarm bells warning me about Mr Mathis was this rather stinky comment from him, and about himself: cuttingthroughthefog.com/2018/11/09/current-events-discussion-thread/comment-page-16/#comment-27084 "I don’t have any of those names in my genealogy. But Pitts may link her to Brad Pitt. I guess my ancestors married the wrong people." (Oct 21st, 2019)MathisderMaler -Miles Mathis' previous pseudonym) YUK. which naturally got me wondering: so, if his ancestors had married the "right" people, would the same Mr Mathis have outed them in all those papers of his?... It looks a lot like Mr Mathis very much wants to be part of those stinky families. Maybe he should be part of them since he also very much acts like a spoilt brat himself, or a "regal personage" at CTTF (as Michael Deloatch/ThruthDecay described him appropriately). By the way, if Mr Mathis’ papers allegedly have high view counts, why is the number of posters (on CTTF, or here) still so low? Another Emperor's new clothes, or what? @ lol I think that "genius" Mr Mathis was either easily fooled, got carried away, or was having a good private laugh when he wrote this title "GO CANADA - How you can Tell the Freedom Convoy in Canada is Real" mileswmathis.com/davy.pdf - or is it that anyone who was able to see it for what it was -another manufactured fraud- is or was the real "genius" then. Real intelligence, "genius" usually speaks for itself and doesn't need arrogance, worshipping or any censorship. |
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Post by dentarthurdent on Feb 24, 2023 13:37:43 GMT
We all see Phoenyworld through a glass darkly, even Miles. I emailed him a correction once on a paper, none of us are infallible. We’re all just doing the best we can to figure out why the world is so cocked up. Ultimately, the answer lies within ourselves, but being the gullible species we are, how did we stop believing in ourselves, and put all our trust in the Phoenies? Why did we let them win? And how do we put them back in their homunculus jar? They’re the ones who told us we were naked and said if we eat their food we’ll be wise. Maybe original sin is Phoenician rule, and we can neither enter this world without it nor leave it without it hanging over our heads. All because Adam wasn’t good enough for Eve.
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doormanthe3rd
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Post by doormanthe3rd on Feb 25, 2023 4:06:40 GMT
Dtox appears to bear a grudge. One easy example of where they did not stick together through thick and thin is when Josh took 9+months to completely ignore the blog by all indicators and Miles suggested it had been left to rot.
Dotx, can you really overlook this?
I think you all are giving a standard over-reaction toward censorship. Its in the rules, it has happened behind the scenes when Josh decides to NOT pull a message out of the trap, there are banned subjects, flatE trannys, etc. Censorship is a complicated topic and just decrying that SOME of it looks like shit is basically missing the point. My contention is its enforced ARBITRARILY, some people seem to be able to break the rules and others, well maybe they will get through. I suggested there is a spook-jacket explanation for why some are let through, Josh is known to review post history before making a decision like what he did to Joey's post. Joey's post doesn't even sound very insightful, or course it looks bad, the issue is Miles stated reasons, and the blogs, and if those are CONSISTENT.
Also dtox, you wander offtopic pretty easily. His canada conclusions are not really related to this topic. Also assuming he is getting scratched and bitten because he lives with cats makes some of you input contrived and indicative of a grudge.
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ska
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Post by ska on Feb 25, 2023 7:32:33 GMT
Yeah, well, as far as lashing out at DeLoatch, there's a breaking point. You can only take so much. If i was trying to run a blog in the same vein as CTTF I sure as hell wouldn't put up with the distractions that are happening at CTTF. Tony and his videos would've been banned from the first word. As I said, Deloatch's anagrams aren't the problem. It's all the other stuff he piles on top of that. People can only take so much. Notice Miles didn't banish him, but someone had to say something.
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dtox
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Post by dtox on Feb 25, 2023 9:09:51 GMT
@ Doorman — Flash news for you : don't think I don't know what you were doing at CTTF (until you got kicked out of there), and what you are still doing here. It's not working on me, so you can just buzz off where I'm concerned. I don't need to justify my posts and opinions just because you're nit-picking about pretty much everything, and anything you failed to understand. And this should conclude my first and last exchange with you. |
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ska
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Post by ska on Feb 25, 2023 11:33:53 GMT
Yeah, dtox bearing a grudge. Well put. He needs to detox from spreading toxicity!
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ska
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Post by ska on Feb 26, 2023 3:30:16 GMT
@ toxicity, You've got nothing on Miles. I went and read his comment about his ancestors not marrying the right people. Sounds to me that he was using sarcasm. Your criticism is a big empty.
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doormanthe3rd
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Post by doormanthe3rd on Feb 26, 2023 8:05:53 GMT
I'll note dtox made his account after this thread had been posted. Also, I have not posted anything under any name at CTTF since I was blocked, I sent one email to Josh and that was it, no response. I really wonder what dtox thinks I'm doing, it would have been useful if he just said it straight instead of cutting all exchange. I'll admit no understanding what and why he is saying Josh and Miles self-support each other through thick and thin. I gave him a chance to clarify and was told to buzz off, nice.
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