Miles is a jerk and CTTF is off putting. 🤢

TDM is the thirdDoorMan? Perhaps its a language thing, but much of what you write is really difficult to interpret. I guess that is the tough bear meat idea? Why bother then, its just another way to avoid being direct and explicit in what you say, in my view, you don't "get it" as you like to repeat. Switching the topic to seismic waves and spin in mechanical fields, ok, whatever, literally nine different ways to interpret what you are saying and so specific meaning is sort of smeared out and lost. More time is spent trying to understand your text

You think I can't process your tough bear meat? Here is a short one, Tony didn't present his ideas, he says Miles' ideas, his paper [unspecified] _reminded_ him of a star trek episode where fantastic fiction can slot in for the moral of knowing who the real enemy is. So beware the mind control telling us to fight our fellow men? Seems I'm a bit more concise.

And for a highlight we have Graham down page "Nice we can all have rational chats here again after recent purges, even when there isn’t a consensus. " If only Graham knew rationality was purged in favor of "nice chats". I'm sure these people are turning away from reality, but to NULL? nah. Remember I had three people stick up for my non-spookdom, it never occured to them I could just change what I present at CTTF to suit thier taste [or josh's] I made an honest effort until it was clear I was being abused. I took a long break from even lurking after this "nice chat" from Jared cuttingthroughthefog.com/2018/11/09/current-events-discussion-thread/comment-page-135/#comment-172957 Can you follow the technical discussion here Primitive Grunt?

Have I spent too much time writing this? How much time do you think was spent?

Nowhere :-)

By the way, the word "cult" comes from the word "culture" which has to do with cultivating something. It's why a new group of Christian believers are sometimes referred to as a "cult" in that they're trying to cultivate the truth as they understand it. So yeah, hopefully CTTF has a culture thing going on. 

I guess when you say someone keeps bringing up Jared, thats referring to me, when you mention "you guys" I guess you are talking about a group.

I'm glad to bring up the discourse I had with Jared, and I never considered crticizing him for not contributing, that is absurd. He can be the life of the party, he can entertain, what you seem to think I'm having trouble grasping has been clear to me from the start. Jared has also met MM, has a long interaction, has laboriously built 3d animations of Miles' theories, which are still posted and are useful and fascinating, and collabed with other collaborators of MM, that I can detect at least as an outsider. He is a member in good standing.


Some want to talk about butt hurt, you SKA want to talk about bashing Miles Mathis and how we should shape our behavior to be more inviting. I want to talk about how you and almost every single person in the CTTF and this community seems timid, seems to be playing a wait and see game, or a political form of silence and evade and move on, when there is literally an elephant shitting on the stage in front of us all. Its not surprising, its human to avoid conflict and to get into political popularity games.

@ doormanthe3rd, Or maybe the reason Jared's premise is wrong is because viruses aren't the cause of XYZ in the first place. As Miles has pointed out it's okay to speculate all day about who shot Kennedy rather than the truth. Remember how that someone posted on CTTF that a doctor, in 1895, figured out that it was a bacterium which was the likely culprit for the flu because he detected it in everyone's lungs who were sick. Enter, then, the Rockefeller's who high-jacked the narrative using something that you can't see. So, in reality, you're both wrong.