joey
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Post by joey on Feb 13, 2023 6:16:02 GMT
It's getting kind of culty on CTTF. I won't be going there any longer. I mostly lurked, rarely chiming in. What I did say to Miles about his treatment of Truthdecay recently was completely censored, never seeing the light of day. I can see where that forum is headed and that's just not for me. Glad there are other options!
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Post by Tonnie on Feb 13, 2023 21:51:18 GMT
Joey, I saw your comment but the next day it was gone (your 'like' is still there). Censoring when you defend someone who's treated unfairly, so I agree with you. I liked the diversity before (the seven dwarfs comes to mind), but nowadays it is not going in the right direction. Wait and see.
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Post by dtox on Feb 14, 2023 8:27:23 GMT
Well, if you look at the picture this way :
- He's pushing 60 (ouch)
- Divorced (easy to conceive why; keep reading)
- Living with cats (therefore gets scratched and bitten now and then, ouch)
- Rides old bicycles (and gets attacked especially when wearing skin tight bike pants, ouch)
- A little too obsessed with HW actors
- Much too arrogant for his own good
- His best work is behind him now (papers getting sloppier, therefore gets more and more criticism, ouch)
- Shares one and only forum...with J from Y zra el
Who in his place wouldn't be sucking a lemon ? Agreed it's no excuse to take it out on his readers and CTTF posters like he's doing now.
More seriously I think his kinda neo-hippie facade could very well be a cover from the beginning, meaning another kind of agent.
Several hints and clues out there... And face it, he did once show support for the fake orange-hair dude, he did show some support to the Canadian trucker circus no matter how fishy it looked (to me at least) when it started.
Looks like J and M have been told off by the nerdy headmasters above them, hence 'zee will obey zee orders' - new direction - we are now witnessing. Keep zee old suckers and maybe get some fresh new suckers; though personally I don't see it working great.
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Post by logan on Feb 14, 2023 13:13:39 GMT
The process of "moderation" of comments was never really made transparent at CTTF. I found 3 cases:
1. Comment vanishes on submission (very frequent): presumably means the "Ass Kiss Me-T" censorship machine from WordPress automatically deleted it on the basis of unknown criteria. This occurred even when using the same screen name and e-mail address each time. Different IP addresses appear to result in deletion even if from the same country, but in that case how are you supposed to use a VPN or alternate between mobile and landline providers? Not clear whether the deletion was immediate and permanent a la ]evv-toob, or to a so-called "spam folder". One was invited to email Josh and "supplicate" for the post to be "fished out" of the spam folder. Well, you know where you can put that suggestion.
2. A remark appears: "your comment is awaiting moderation" (as frequent as (1) ) which in my experience meant "awaiting deletion" --presumably by Josh? in 9 cases out of 10. The criteria applied by Josh were never recognizable: my impression is that there is a small elite group of contributors that belong to the club and everyone else is 3rd class and gets the "bum's rush".
3. Comment actually appears--the minority of cases. Again unclear what facilitates this but my impression was that only short remarks containing no links or anything contentious got through.
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Post by dentarthurdent on Feb 16, 2023 15:34:10 GMT
So someone gets butthurt at a piece of crap forum that barely functions at a 1990s tech level, and that makes Miles a jerk? In my opinion, FWIW, 90% of CTTF and this forum's posters are like flies buzzing around horse shit. The other 10% almost never post any more because they don't being around like shit infested flies.
There has to be a reason Miles and Josh stick with CTTF, because it sure ain't because its a superior platform. We tried "real" forums, and neither of them are interested in participating.
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joey
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Post by joey on Feb 16, 2023 20:37:32 GMT
So someone gets butthurt at a piece of crap forum that barely functions at a 1990s tech level, and that makes Miles a jerk? In my opinion, FWIW, 90% of CTTF and this forum's posters are like flies buzzing around horse shit. The other 10% almost never post any more because they don't being around like shit infested flies. There has to be a reason Miles and Josh stick with CTTF, because it sure ain't because its a superior platform. We tried "real" forums, and neither of them are interested in participating. No Dent, full on blatant in your face censorship and treating people who try and have a lighthearted approach to these subjects (truth decay) like dog shit, makes Miles a jerk.
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Post by doormanthe3rd on Feb 19, 2023 0:15:49 GMT
Mmm, after a prolonged silence I feel like I need to offer a counterpoint to this thread. Joey do we not see a lighthearted approach in this message at CTTF "https://cuttingthroughthefog.com/2018/11/09/current-events-discussion-thread/comment-page-177/#comment-228794".
I mention this because it tends to falsify the notion that lightheartedness itself is the issue. Tony has even posted this video before, and the brooklyn kid routine predates any recent inflation I think. Not buying starbucks is not really a huge sacrifice to make, it represents only profanity laden comedy.
Also, you mention a "culty" aspect to CTTF. Can you elaborate at length please? I don't think you had much to say about this accusation, what is the basis for your perception of "culty".
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joey
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Post by joey on Feb 19, 2023 18:16:38 GMT
Mmm, after a prolonged silence I feel like I need to offer a counterpoint to this thread. Joey do we not see a lighthearted approach in this message at CTTF "https://cuttingthroughthefog.com/2018/11/09/current-events-discussion-thread/comment-page-177/#comment-228794". I mention this because it tends to falsify the notion that lightheartedness itself is the issue. Tony has even posted this video before, and the brooklyn kid routine predates any recent inflation I think. Not buying starbucks is not really a huge sacrifice to make, it represents only profanity laden comedy. Also, you mention a "culty" aspect to CTTF. Can you elaborate at length please? I don't think you had much to say about this accusation, what is the basis for your perception of "culty". Any time you have a group of people centered around one man that is hoisted up as special and irreproachable you get the culty aspect that I see forming over at cttf. I won't elaborate further because the fact is, if you don't see it, it's already too late for you.
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Post by doormanthe3rd on Feb 19, 2023 21:08:09 GMT
Trying to get me to fill in the details of what YOU see is evasive. "culty aspect" is still pretty vague even with "held up as special" or "irreproachable". You don't want to elaborate on what you see unless you are preaching to someone who already agrees with your perceptions? You don't know what I see on this topic, that much is clear to me at this point!
This idea that a poster with a lighthearted approach is treated bad, just sounds false at this point. There is something else going on
I'll add that "in your face censorship" has been in the rules since before I arrived at CTTF, surprised to find almost nobody seems to be familiar with that. Posting guidelines at the top of every page and the Warning to spooks topic section have plenty to say about what brings an insta-ban.
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Post by joey on Feb 20, 2023 3:39:51 GMT
Ok excellent, glad we've had this opportunity to chat doorman.
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Post by lol on Feb 20, 2023 4:16:01 GMT
I resonate with Joey and Dtox here.
Joey mentions Cultish. It's been over a year since I was banned from CTTF. A couple of times before my banning, I suggested that the CTTF forum members were treating Miles too much like a Guru. That's what Cults do. They have Gurus, one guru per cult. Gurus are infallible, can do no wrong. To criticize a guru is verboten. Miles is probably a genius, just like he says, but, hey, I'm a genius too and most of the folks here and on CTTF probably are too. But we don't need a guru.
Dtox suspects Miles and Josh of being controlled opposition, I take it. I haven't come to that conclusion, though it's possible. Miles complains often about being suppressed by the search engines, and then sort of brags about not needing them, since word of mouth is superior. I think I may have brought up on CTTF back in the day that if the ruling class really wanted to suppress Miles' influence, they could surely do it easily. So the reason he continues to have influence must be because some part of the ruling class wear white hats, or because Miles is controlled opposition, even if he doesn't know it.
Actually, everyone has genius potential. Glenn Doman proved it with brain-injured kids at the Institute for the Achievement of Human Potential in Philadelphia. IAHP.org. His patterning method helped many such kids achieve superior intelligence.
PS, I'm glad to see more activity here, though I don't have a lot of time to spend here myself.
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Post by doormanthe3rd on Feb 20, 2023 9:28:32 GMT
I never saw this censored message from Joey, can anybody provide a copy? How about a synopsis?
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Post by doormanthe3rd on Feb 21, 2023 9:11:51 GMT
Nobody has evebn a brief synopsis? I'm supposed to believe things have gotten culty recently as opposed to when I showed up two years ago? This is my cue to abandon political considerations and rip to shreds all the poor reasoning presented in this thread. I feel like those posting in this thread don't need another wall of text from me and would rather I remain silent. Still, I honestly believe I have insights on this topic that are worth considering and could be of benefit to those on the outs with Miles and CTTF.
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Post by joey on Feb 21, 2023 19:02:59 GMT
It was nothing really, though a tad brisk and admittedly not very well thought out. Under truthdecay's/Miles post I wrote: "Miles, your tone and simply the way you look here, is shit." I was pointing out the bad optics, even if he meant nothing by it (which he fully did), it is bad for the community. So not only was he in the wrong for coming down so hard on a random lighthearted reader of his papers, but he was also wrong for not letting my comment be seen by the public. It's controlling and wreaks of narcissisism and that culty vibe I mentioned previously.
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Post by lol on Feb 22, 2023 17:08:13 GMT
It was nothing really, though a tad brisk and admittedly not very well thought out. Under truthdecay's/Miles post I wrote: "Miles, your tone and simply the way you look here, is shit." I was pointing out the bad optics, even if he meant nothing by it (which he fully did), it is bad for the community. So not only was he in the wrong for coming down so hard on a random lighthearted reader of his papers, but he was also wrong for not letting my comment be seen by the public. It's controlling and wreaks of narcissisism and that culty vibe I mentioned previously. Miles wasn't made a moderator of CTTF, was he? Normally, it was Josh who decided what appeared on CTTF. What's "bad optics"?
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