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Post by howtocrackchef on Mar 10, 2023 21:14:17 GMT
Joey, I saw your comment but the next day it was gone (your 'like' is still there). Censoring when you defend someone who's treated unfairly, so I agree with you. I liked the diversity before (the seven dwarfs comes to mind), but nowadays it is not going in the right direction. Wait and see. i came back because i know what it is like top be a young buck. i was in a foriegn country and my best friend was a black woman that had aids. \so whatever you feeling remember there are gems or gold in the ground and you will know you dont have to look around. hmmm didnt sit well wtih me. is it easier or more effective. mind of a mad man. piss off you are watching.
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Post by Gijs on Mar 11, 2023 6:37:36 GMT
It sucks here too ! "primitivegrunt" is still a member but all of his posts are deleted ! I've read his posts and indeed not all were "garbage", for me it was human interaction, he even explained once that his reply was inconsistent because he had drunk to much. Really creepy censuring. Sorry, I couldn't make it through his 'primitive grunts' going on for pages, so I wouldn't know.
However, I think we can all agree this howtocrackchef IS a bot?
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Post by Daniel Archer on Mar 11, 2023 9:24:51 GMT
It sucks here too ! "primitivegrunt" is still a member but all of his posts are deleted ! I've read his posts and indeed not all were "garbage", for me it was human interaction, he even explained once that his reply was inconsistent because he had drunk to much. Really creepy censuring. Sorry, I couldn't make it through his 'primitive grunts' going on for pages, so I wouldn't know.
However, I think we can all agree this howtocrackchef IS a bot?
Gijs: Yep, it is, i will let it stay for now (so everybody can see what a bot looks like), primitivegrunts post were similar, nonsense and also posts in a row, one after the other. Tonnie: LOL, nothing is creepy about this nor is it censuring Tonnie, jibberissh posts and spamming is not tolerated. Anyway, i mailed primitivegrunt, if i get a human response, i can see what i can do... Regards, Daniel
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doormanthe3rd
Might not be a bot, but we still don’t trust him or her
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Post by doormanthe3rd on Mar 12, 2023 20:44:07 GMT
I see no evidence of bot activity in howtocrackchef. Just now Daniel made a new rule, no jibberish posts will be tolerated, ok. Previously the rule seemed to be "use the forum as we see fit, no profanity". That includes unfortunately drunken posts, in that case I would rule them not spamming, but disruptive and troll like. Still, I had a conversation with the last so called bot, it was deleted it seemes, but in that exchange was an ADMISSION of drunk posting. So I got more done by interacting with primitive grunt than could otherwise be accomplished, and obtained proof [to my skill and experience] that primitive grunt was not using automatic posting software or otherwise producing software generated posts in that one clear case. Then that case study was deleted despite the rule "use the forum as we see fit, no profanity". Is there some other list of rules somewhere I've missed? Thanks for pointing it out if so. Daniel's opinion about the matter at the time cannot just be the rule! Make a set of rules and publish them!
The idea a user can just be disruptive, repetitive, or producing gibberish, does not make them a bot. Just because a bot is throwing posts at CTTF trying to get that "new" username approved doesn't mean that a human can't step in and take over once it does get through the door. There is no heavy door here at freeforums, a human can just signup, login, and post, it would make much more sense for bot activity to infiltrate sneakily and build a number of accounts discretely, rather than test out bot software someone wrote in a weekend producing gibberish and empty replies. THe exception would be enormous amounts of post that merely bog down moderation, like over 20 posts in a short period of time.
The evidence for ALL disruptive posts, primitive grunt, and now howtocrackchef is drunken posting to me. I have a theory there is one user with more than one account, but without some backend data like where the posts are originating I can't build up any more evidence. Josh was able to, he could spot people from the same IP address using multiple user names and although that was never explicitly prohibited [in the rules published] it resulted in those accounts being blocked at least once in my experience.
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Post by Daniel Archer on Mar 13, 2023 7:12:28 GMT
@doorman
The rule no cursing is for humans.
Bots were never allowed, if you think crackpipe is not a bot, OMFG, get real.
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ska
Might not be a bot, but we still don’t trust him or her
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Post by ska on Mar 13, 2023 7:30:47 GMT
Yeah, really. Get real!!!
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doormanthe3rd
Might not be a bot, but we still don’t trust him or her
Posts: 60
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Post by doormanthe3rd on Mar 13, 2023 23:58:53 GMT
I made a bunch of arguments, _real_ statments in public, and all you have to say is "get real". Way to evade and ignore and change the subject and fail to defend your ideas and conclusions. As if I'm not dealing in reality. Gaslight much?
Here is another bit of evidence -chef- "i came back because i know what it is like top be a young buck." So you believe, in your "get real" world, that a bot was programmed to output "top" instead of "to" so as to make it look like some human mistyped? O and P are right next to each other on the keyboard, that is some sophisticated camoflage to disguise a bot that is going to spew out empty replies and gibberish. REAL ENOUGH?
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ska
Might not be a bot, but we still don’t trust him or her
Posts: 93
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Post by ska on Mar 14, 2023 8:33:01 GMT
You must be hard up for friends if you're actually going to defend a bot-like commenter. Reminds me of that line in a song where the guy is so lonely he says; "Lucky me, now I'm set. Little bug for a pet".
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doormanthe3rd
Might not be a bot, but we still don’t trust him or her
Posts: 60
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Post by doormanthe3rd on Mar 14, 2023 11:56:17 GMT
No, you are just hard up for understanding. I've already discussed that this person is likely a drunken troll and that his garbage posts can be eliminated. What is at issue here is that it is not against the rules [yet] to be a drunken troll because Daniel refuses to publish a coherent list of rules. Its not a bot, but that doesn't mean they should not be warned, have their garbage posts moved aside, and after some period of time be banned. Ska, if you can't read what I write just hang back, we don't need a parrot to repeat "get real" like some kind of nuisance.
Another bit of evidence: I've already been researching the support forums for "bots" and nobody deals with bots who log in, its always guest visitors so far. Spam is a problem, but its not AUTOMATED spam. At least not yet have I heard anything like a bot that logs in. GET REAL AMATEURS
Another bit of evidence: primitive grunt also exhibited gibberish and empty replies in the SKATE thread, all of which were whisked away by Daniel. So behavior from primitive grunt resembles this new chef account. At issue is that I was in a conversation with primitive grunt when that un-botlike content was whisked away with no warning, that is when I got the admission of drunken posting which Gijs couldn't be bothered to read I guess. After that content was whisked away, along with a bunch of garbage posts, a new account chef was created and made gibberish and empty replies just like primitive grunt who actually proved he could interact and have a conversation like a human.
Daniel still has not recognized the fact I was in the middle of a converstaion with primitive grunt when he went on his delete fest, all the while drunken trolling was not prohibited. So prohibit it, with some sensible rules, I have no intention to support or defend gibberish and empty replies like SKA seems to misunderstand.
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ska
Might not be a bot, but we still don’t trust him or her
Posts: 93
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Post by ska on Mar 16, 2023 9:54:59 GMT
Well, somebody's gotta put their foot down. At least Daniel has a handle on it.
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ska
Might not be a bot, but we still don’t trust him or her
Posts: 93
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Post by ska on Mar 16, 2023 18:03:37 GMT
I went back and reread the post from "How-to-cook-up-crack", and it is total nonsense. So now you're just embarrassing yourself doormanthe3rd. When are you gonna stop?
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lol
Really good at convincing us he’s not a bot
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Post by lol on Mar 24, 2023 20:01:50 GMT
SUGGESTION to Daniel. Have a thread for TRASH or NONSENSE or the like and put stuff like the nonsense from HowToCrackChef there and put a link to the TRASH location of the post in place of the nonsense message. That way, anyone who's curious what message got trashed can go there and decide if they agree or not that it's trash. And the messages in the TRASH/NONSENSE thread should have links back to the original location for those who may peruse the T/N thread. Is that too much work for you?
As for the topic of this thread, Miles & others are indeed jerks to some extent, but also pretty savvy in many cases. I call a lot of people names, including myself and God and my GF etc. Maybe we should have a thread to practice productive name calling.
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logan
Bot till proven otherwise
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Post by logan on Apr 4, 2023 12:48:54 GMT
Over at CTTF Maria is now complaining ( April 2, 2023 at 10:26 pm) that
"one comment went to moderation and one disappeared…" thus preventing her from replying to a thread.
So this is now happening even to those in the elite circle of permitted commenters?
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Ben
Bot till proven otherwise
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Post by Ben on Apr 4, 2023 21:46:23 GMT
I don't think the cttf censor-bot is very smart. That would be giving Josh too much credit. I think it really is a spam filter, just a poorly programmed one that produces way too many false positives.
That is not to say I trust Josh. He claimed he doesn't know how to set up a message board and needs someone to show him how. So he can set up Wordpress but not Proboards? He can't Google it and figure it out? He is either stupid or lying, and he sure doesn't seem stupid.
If anyone has Maria's e-mail, I'd suggest contacting her directly and asking her to post her comments here. Posting a link on cttf risks bringing all the bots and agents here.
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Post by dentarthurdent on Apr 7, 2023 12:42:21 GMT
Crack chef looks like lousy AI to me. Bot.
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